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To: steve harris who wrote (263398)12/5/2005 1:17:53 PM
From: combjelly  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 1573104
 
"try google and read about democrats' connections to abramoff..."

There are a few. Very few compared to the number of Republicans.



To: steve harris who wrote (263398)12/5/2005 1:23:57 PM
From: TigerPaw  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 1573104
 
All the guys with ties to abramoff should be examined for bribery. We don't need no stinkin' crooks in the democratic party neither.

TP



To: steve harris who wrote (263398)12/6/2005 2:37:22 AM
From: tejek  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 1573104
 
try google and read about democrats' connections to abramoff...

"Smith says that Abramoff paid -- at least in part -- for trips by two Democratic congressmen, James Clyburn and Bennie Thompson, and two staff members to then-Majority Whip Tom DeLay, to the Northern Mariana Islands in the 1990s."

That was two Dem., stevo.......equal to the number of Republicans who did NOT get something from Abramoff.



To: steve harris who wrote (263398)12/6/2005 2:46:30 AM
From: tejek  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 1573104
 
Who do we believe.......Bush or the Iraqi VP?

Training of Iraq Forces Suffer 'Setback'Iraqi

Vice President Says Training of Security Forces Has Suffered Big Setback in Last Six Months

By SALLY BUZBEE Associated Press Writer
The Associated Press

DUBAI, United Arab Emirates Dec 5, 2005 — The training of Iraqi security forces has suffered a big "setback" in the last six months, with the army and other forces being increasingly used to settle scores and make other political gains, Iraqi Vice President Ghazi al-Yawer said Monday.

Al-Yawer disputed contentions by U.S. officials, including President Bush, that the training of security forces was gathering speed, resulting in more professional troops.


Bush has said the United States will not pull out of Iraq until Iraq's own forces can maintain security. In a speech last week, he said Iraqi forces are becoming increasingly capable of securing the country.

Al-Yawer, a Sunni moderate, said he agreed the United States cannot pull out now because "there will be a huge vacuum," leaving Iraq in danger of falling into civil war. In particular, armed Shiite militias in the south might try to incite war if U.S.-led coalition forces leave, he said in an interview with The Associated Press and a U.S. newspaper at a conference here.

"I wish it were that simple," he said of calls to set a timetable for withdrawal or a drawdown.

But al-Yawer said recent allegations that Interior Ministry security forces dominated by Shiites have tortured Sunni detainees were evidence that many forces are increasingly politicized and sectarian. Some of the recently trained Iraqi forces focus on settling scores and other political goals rather than maintaining security, he said.

In addition, some Iraqi military commanders have been dismissed for political reasons, rather than judged on merit, he said.

He said the army also dominated by Shiites is conducting raids against villages and towns in Sunni and mixed areas of Iraq, rather than targeting specific insurgents a tactic he said reminded many Sunnis of Saddam Hussein-era raids.

"Saddam used to raid villages," using security forces, he said. "This is not the way to do it."

Al-Yawer also expressed grave concern that Iraqi army units might use intimidation to try to keep Sunni voters from the polls during the country's crucial Dec. 15 general election.

abcnews.go.com



To: steve harris who wrote (263398)12/23/2005 9:22:07 AM
From: Doug R  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 1573104
 
Google can be alot like Burger King and Elvis sightings when you put very little effort into it.

"try google and read about democrats' connections to abramoff..."

The GOP wants everyone to think that the money went equally to both parties and now that he's cutting a deal we should be discovering just how equal that was. Everything out there now shows that Abramoff himself did not pass on anything to the Democrats while he was heaping mounds of cash on numerous GOP politicians.

americablog.blogspot.com