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To: Lane3 who wrote (150050)	12/7/2005 2:42:08 PM
From: ManyMoose	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 793957

I stand on rich and diverse American culture, not a patchwork quilt of multiculturalism imposed by government fiat. That means American culture adopts and adapts customs from other cultures. It means different cultures join with the American culture and become part of it. It means that the Christian values this country was built on never lose ground because of some misguided multiculturalism edict. It does not mean that the other cultures establish a beachhead in America from which they can work to destroy it. It does not mean that the government decides we will celebrate this culture or that, or all of them. Here's a good example of the way it should be: Where I worked, the Native culture was rich and vibrant. Members sponsored their own celebration and invited everybody. Everybody came, too, and enjoyed it. The government did not suggest that we had to attend, but we did it for our own benefit. This celebration had no banner celebrating Christmas or Easter. So far so good, but: In the very same room where this occurred, the government posted banners celebrating Kwanza, Hanukkah, and Islam during the Christmas season, thereby suggesting some equivalency and certainly instituting multi-culturalism by fiat. As far as I know, there was no grassroots effort to open up a Kwanza day. Hanukkah, celebrated by our Jewish employees, was a private affair. They made no effort to extend it to the rest of us, although I was invited to a bar Mitzvah by a colleague. Sikhs wore their headdresses and mingled with everyone else. To my knowledge, there were no Muslim celebrations to which the rest of us were invited. I know there were Muslims in the town, which was very isolated. It sounds like you and I are on the same page, but perhaps I didn't state my case very well. I'm for cultural richness, against multiculturalism. Especially forced multiculturalism.

To: Lane3 who wrote (150050)	12/7/2005 3:21:46 PM
From: ManyMoose	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 793957

By the way, my newest neighbors are Russians. Last July, they came to the culdesaq Independence Day potluck and shot off fireworks afterward. They grew a wonderful garden and brought over some vegetables. We gave them some vegetables from my brother's garden (we don't have one). They now have Christmas lights up on their house. We don't. The kids go to high school and have fully assimilated as far as I can tell. The gentleman of the house owns a trucking company and the lady teaches English to Russian immigrants. They add to the cultural richness of our neighborhood. The government had nothing to do with this, which is the way I like it.

To: Lane3 who wrote (150050)	12/8/2005 2:38:54 AM
From: KLP	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 793957

The biggest problem I see is done by the people that don't think the pie can be made larger. In this country, since we are a melting pot, we have made our own traditions, while adding some of those from the "old country" we or our folks before us came from. And we've continued adding traditions, creating the "rich culture soup" we are all fond of talking about. BUT, there are some, daily it seems, that want to take away some traditions, and add their own new ones to supercede the old ones. Possibly, if we look at the situation as if we were from another planet, we could suggest that we keep the good traditions from the civilized world today, and add other traditions from new countries that want to be included in the mix of peoples from those new countries. The culture pie could always be added to this way, instead of taking away of some and adding others.... We are going to have to decide where to draw the line however. Adding female circumcision, or beheading for whatever excuse these folks are using, or stoning for adultery, or demanding women wear covering, or denying votes to women, etc will not fly in America. At least the America I want to live in. >>>>> But I would caution you not to wall out the incorporation of other traditions out of concern about it. Incorporation is what assimilation and the melting pot are all about. If you wall out innocent traditions, you are contributing to cultural isolationism. <<<<<