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To: Hawkmoon who wrote (177361)	12/7/2005 3:30:47 PM
From: geode00	Respond to of 281500

Think and weep. Clinton inherited the economic problems from Poppy and it took him two administrations to climb out of the hole. After we climbed out of the hole, President Loser took us right back in. Why can't you think straight? Baloney. The conservative WSJ put the war and tax cuts, both items of choice, as the major reasons for the bad turn in the deficit. Don't even bother trying to put President Loser in the same ballpark with Rhodes Scholar Clinton. Now you're making fun of the peace dividend? Bush had the peace dividend but he failed to pay any attention to the PDBs and the FBI's 40 warnings and the Clinton administration's warnings and Clarke's warnings about terrorism. Bush failed to pay any attention to the results of the Cole investigation. Bush failed us before, during and after 911. You think that his sitting around like a deer in headlights reading My Pet Goat to children was anything different from what President Loser does on a regular and recurring basis? After spending all his time salivating about over throwing Saddam for oil and bragging rights, dreaming about SDI and killing SS and placing greater burdens on the American middle class for the benefit of himself and his family and friends, Bush took the aftermath of 911 AND SQUANDERED IT.

To: Hawkmoon who wrote (177361)	12/7/2005 3:48:23 PM
From: jttmab	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 281500

Read the facts, and weep.. US public debt rose by 40% during the Clinton administration from $4 Trillion to $5.6 Trillion Excuse me, but that is total debt, not the publice debt. That's important. Intragovernmental debt is where the SS Trust Debt is held. There isn't anything the President can do about the intragovernmental debt. The Intragovernmental debt shows the current liability of the social security trust fund, plus some other noise. However, we're a country at war, having suffered a Trillion dollar economic hit from 9/11. I think you'll find that the Heritage Foundation points out that the growth rate of security related Federal expenses has tripled over the rate that Clinton operated under. And the rate of growth for non-security related Federal expenditures have doubled. The later not in any way shape or form being even remotely related to 9/11. ... I'd like to mention the recent report card from the 9/11 commission on just how well those security related Federal expenses are improving our security. Interoperability was a big issue, how far have we gotten on that one? Then there's the Medicare prescription program that hasn't even started to hit the budget. I heard someone from the Heritage Foundation point out that the Medicare prescription program has an unfunded liability three time that of Social Security. Conservatives thought Social Security was a problem and then turned around and created a mandatory program that has a problem three times larger than social security. Makes sense to Bush, not me. ....having suffered a Trillion dollar economic hit from 9/11. That number keeps on getting bigger...are you aware of any analysis I might read that shows how they figured that out? jttmab P.S. I saved this link just for you ... This is how the Bush Adminitration appreciates the sacrafices made be those in uniform. csmonitor.com