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To: Lane3 who wrote (6415)	12/9/2005 8:34:07 AM
From: Dale Baker	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 542247

I would wonder, if Hillary supports criminalizing flag-burning, what other forms of political speech will she move to ban as President? How egregious could speech-control laws become and still get her signature once a pandering Congress sends them down Pennsylvania Avenue? It's more than just pandering, it's a question of principle. She has compromised her support for free speech to pander to a certain constituency. Once you go down that slope, it gets really slippery.

To: Lane3 who wrote (6415)	12/9/2005 9:07:58 AM
From: JohnM	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 542247

Short is good. I have no clue what that means. Sorry. Too cryptic. I simply meant that your short reply was good. What do you think Hillary honestly thinks about criminalizing flag burning? Under other circumstances, wouldn't she be fighting against it? Or am I misreading her? I have no serious idea and am as puzzled as everyone else. If you look at it as simply a political move, no substance intended, I can't see any argument for it; and only negatives. Voters like me think less of her; and voters who think legislation against flag burning is a good thing, only see it as pandering. I've seen the argument that it's a bit of protection against the sins of swiftboating. And I guess so. But my own reading of the electorate is that the large majority are simply so tired of such moves that the honesty and straightforwardness of an awkward spokesperson like Murtha gets votes. I watched portions of his rejoinders to Bush's speech at the CFR. It's very clear who knows his material and is speaking policy and who is simply engaged in PR. It's snowing hard in northwestern Jersey right now. My wife was supposed to run a workshop this morning on one of the CUNY campuses but had to cancel out. The hilly streets outside the house have still not been plowed. Beautiful but dangerous outside.