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To: marginmike who wrote (45616)12/10/2005 2:51:23 PM
From: redfishRead Replies (1) | Respond to of 306849
 
Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar ... could be the reason people turned so bearish is that the suckitude is going to be really bad.



To: marginmike who wrote (45616)12/10/2005 8:11:16 PM
From: mishedloRead Replies (1) | Respond to of 306849
 
MM, did you see this?
Message 21961893

Yes I agree, with some of what you say but also everyone still thinks housing will just stabilize and there will not be a recession.

I saw a report yesterday from someone predicting a loss of 800,000 jobs because of housing slowdown but that would not cause a recession!

The concesus is overwhelming that we are some kind of permanently high plateau or that any dip will not be significant.
So yes, there is a lot of top calling but no one seems to believe a decline.
There is also an enormous concensus that the economy is strong and will stay strong.

Also Greenspan and others say the yield curve does not matter.

A strange thing really but I really do not see a mass of buyers rushing back in to the markets that have turned.

Mish



To: marginmike who wrote (45616)12/10/2005 8:33:30 PM
From: mishedloRespond to of 306849
 
Dave's Top Ten
Merrill Lynch Economic Commentary
9 December 2005

Message 21962030

MM #1 is the bullish scenario.
I have a really very hard time believing capex is going to the moon and hiring in the US (the only place that matters) will pick up.

In what do we NOT have overcapacity?
Cars, finacial services, home building?

Mish



To: marginmike who wrote (45616)12/11/2005 11:19:24 AM
From: John VosillaRead Replies (1) | Respond to of 306849
 
"As a contrarian, and a gold bug, and someone who believes fiat money is being debassed that it is an interesting hypothesis to think that housing and stocks are going to have another gigantic run starting in 07."

Perhaps a mad gold rush with broad stock averages and commodities continuing relentlessly higher? Perhaps housing does go up in the areas where it hasn't which geographically is 3/4 of the country?

I think that can all happen even with a crack in the bloated overpriced coastal housing markets where psychology has turned negative. It is screwed no matter which fork in the road we take stagflation or depression IMHO..



To: marginmike who wrote (45616)12/11/2005 12:28:19 PM
From: skinowskiRead Replies (2) | Respond to of 306849
 
It sometimes occurs to me that - MAYBE - if, contrary to the popular inflationary expectations we get a deflationary contraction, the Fed may start aggressively easing again. Such a decrease in rates MAY trigger an "echo bubble" in real estate (as everyone begins to expect that history is about to repeat itself). I wouldn't be too surprised if that would cause a spike in prices - (maybe) to new highs... even if only for a short time.