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To: LindyBill who wrote (150447)	12/10/2005 8:11:28 PM
From: Bearcatbob	Respond to of 793748

Commander Queeg and Howard Dean The key to the Caine Mutiny trial was to put Commander Queeg under pressure to demonstrate what an idiot he was. The key to the Bush offensive has been to put the Dems under pressure - Howard Dean and Nancy Pelozzi have reacted according to plan. Are they not fools to not recognize the strategy. I continue to maintain the current leadership of the democratic party is unfit to govern. Bob

To: LindyBill who wrote (150447)	12/11/2005 6:02:59 AM
From: JDN	Respond to of 793748

Why is he complaining? Does not the Republican ad feature EXACTLY what those Dems were saying IN THEIR OWN VOICE. Unlike the Dems there is no possability of lieing here, merely taped and replayed the exact comments. So WHATS THE BEEF? That would be my reply. Now its time for the "dish it out, but can't take it" ad. jdn

To: LindyBill who wrote (150447)	12/11/2005 6:36:50 AM
From: John Carragher	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 793748

if the ad is the white flag then it should be taken down. it serves no purpose imo

To: LindyBill who wrote (150447)	12/11/2005 12:34:40 PM
From: Thomas A Watson	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 793748

Hoisting a white flag: Dean, Pelosi signal surrender 12 hours, 22 minutes ago THE DEMOCRATIC Party's national leadership has plumbed a record depth in its search to score points against the Republicans. In the past week and a half, both House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi and Democratic National Committee Chairman Howard Dean have called for the United States to surrender in Iraq. Not since George McGovern in 1972 has one party called for the United States military to surrender to an enemy during wartime. Some will object to the word, "surrender," but there is no other word to describe the immediate withdrawal of troops from the war zone in Iraq. The simple fact is that two of the nation's three highest-ranking Democrats are advocating an enemy victory over U.S. forces in a foreign land. That not only is appalling in its contempt for the troops who have died to liberate Iraq, it is astonishing in its brazen disregard for the lives and well-being of the Iraqi people. As usual, Dean attempted to backtrack from his comments by claiming they were taken "a bit out of context," which is his customary method of damage control. Say what you really mean, then claim that your critics are twisting your words when they quote you. Pelosi has been, if not more sensible, at least more straightforward, repeatedly supporting Pennsylvania Rep. John Murtha's proposal to begin an immediate pullout of American troops. She added that more than half of House Democrats shared her view, which would be amazing if true. To this day, Democrats have yet to offer a coherent strategy for winning the war in Iraq, and it is clear that they have none. Their attacks on Bush's "failed" strategy have rung hollow all these years because they never had anything better to offer. And now their top leaders have revealed that their real goal all along was not to win, but to cut and run. They only waited this long to announce it because they have concluded that the poll numbers finally are in their favor. While Americans disapprove of the Bush administration's execution of the Iraq war effort, will they really embrace surrender as the alternative? Howard Dean and Nancy Pelosi think so. We don't. The American people, rightly disturbed by serious administration mistakes, still want America to win this war. Unfortunately, the Democrats are quickly removing themselves as a serious foreign policy alternative to the Republicans, and that is damaging not only to them, but to the republic. gamma.unionleader.com