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To: JohnM who wrote (6563)	12/12/2005 1:42:31 AM
From: TimF	Respond to of 542169

Either we are using the term "extortion" in such dramatically different ways that it impedes serious conversation I don't think that we are really using the term extortion in a very different way. I think we would define it the same way. The only difference is you don't apply the definition to the actions of government, at least to a government that you consider to be legitimate. However I think you may be right that we either are not longer making progress or at least are not making a lot and may soon make no further progress. We've progressed to the point where we have established that you think a legitimate government should be exempt from having its actions be considered extortion, and I do not, and neither one of us can really understand the reasons why the other would think this way about the proposed excemption. I think establishing the specific point where we disagree is progress, but it can also be a point where further progress becomes impossible. Tim