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To: Cyprian who wrote (39097)	12/12/2005 8:13:06 PM
From: Cyprian	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 39621

If some of you are going to come on here and spew nonsense which doesn't even have a basis in reality or truth, then perhaps it would be wise for you to heed this advice: Even a fool, when he holdeth his peace, is counted wise: and he that shutteth his lips is esteemed a man of understanding. (Proverbs 17:28)

To: Cyprian who wrote (39097)	12/12/2005 8:33:54 PM
From: 2MAR$	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 39621

the quote included ---> "hands, head and heart ..." not just hands ....or just talking to your hands but the entire package of hands head and heart. You were fashioned after the Creator after all , and in one sense the human body/mind is one of the greatest creations, of creation . We most often covet that which passes away , and we pass on valuing that which is right before us . The more we desire and covet , the more we try to hide behind our pride . This overbearing pride & arrogance was well known to the Greeks long before Jesus walked on the planet , they called it "Hubris" . In ancient times Hubris is a common theme in Greek tragedies and mythology, whose stories often featured characters suffering from hubris and subsequently being punished for it. In Greek law, it most often refers to violent outrage wreaked by the powerful upon the weak. You'll remember that the "Holy Land" was part of the Helenist world 250 yrs before the young Rabbai had the same revelations about how to maintain the inner health and wholesomeness of the individual in relationship to others ( and ie: The Creator) . Hubris or 'hybris' (Greek), is, according to its modern definition, exaggerated pride or self-confidence often resulting in retribution. In Ancient Greek it refers to a reckless disregard for the personal space of other people coupled with lack of control over one's own impulses. Do unto others with your hands, head and heart , as you would have them do unto you with there's .... You can call it law/will of God if you want, and you can call it "Christian" too for label's sake , and that's fine and ok . But I would call it Universal and not unique to the teachings of Jesus of Nazereth, these were already themes of dramas and poetry and philosophers long before. Centuries before in fact . Human Pride ...goeth before the fall. A very Ancient Greek concept that , and saying .