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To: SirWalterRalegh who wrote (177822)12/13/2005 1:55:31 PM
From: Maurice Winn  Respond to of 281500
 
Rick, I'm not merely recounting an episode in the good old days, before people lost their minds in a mania of over-reactive hysteria. I'm explaining how things can be right now, if people use that stuff in their heads instead of going ape.

You obviously failed to follow the extensive, and intellectually challenging logic I gave. I know attention spans are short these days and communication is mostly brief assertions and grunts, with tv sound byte mindless cliches comprising "reasoning".

Heck, you even quoted Tony Soprano, who I think is a television character, right? "Tony say you get whacked!". See what I mean?

New methods of assembling bombs on board. MacGyver was indeed an excellent television programme too. rdanderson.com I think we should expect that terrorists will be MacGyver experts, making bombs out of duty free alcohol, toilet soap and chewed newspaper, plugging their cellphone in as the detonator.

We should ban newspapers, other paper, soap, cellphones, duty-free alcohol, duty-paid alcohol and clothing. Clothing can provide the energy needed in a bomb. Passengers should only be allowed to wear a loin cloth provided by Homeland Security. They should be loaded in handcuffs and locked down in the crash position so they can't rampage on the aircraft.

We can't be too safe you know. Safety is so important. Zero tolerance and all that, as you say.

We have all heard of zero tolerance on tv and that's an excellent sound byte too. So absolute, final and singular. Not 3.14149% tolerance. 0.00000% tolerance. What could be better or safer than that? Everything will be excellent if we have zero, zip, nada, nothing, no tolerance. Right down to mathematically precise 0.00000% Or maybe even more significant figures as 0.00000% tolerance would still let a few individual acts through the safety net. We'd have to go to 0.0000000000000000000000% tolerance to be really safe as there are umpty billion individual actions and we couldn't even have the "b-word" in a book a passenger is carrying.

Heck, with a good-sized Bible, combined with a cellphone and some soap, and loaded with the word "bomb" written in the flyleaf, soaked in duty-free whisky, we'd get a major conflagration of biblical proportions.

<Do you think the passengers on board with Richard Reid should have tried to reason(chat) with him?>

See what I mean about lack of reasoning? How on Earth you got that from my post is beyond me. I was describing the logic of people CLAIMING to have a bomb not people lighting up. I am staggered that you can't see the difference. I won't repeat the reasoning as I doubt you'd get it the second time around. You are obviously an excellent prospect to be an air marshal.

Richard was trying to light the fuse and was intent on doing so as he had kept trying. One doesn't see a B52 and try to reason with it. You take cover or shoot it down, or even better, MacGyver it with electromagnetic fields which defuse the bomb in the bomb bay, or better still deactivate the release mechanism as well using neutron beams made from a quartz halogen light, electrolysis of water, and some mirrors to focus the beam.

When somebody is in the process of doing something like lighting something, one is obviously going to get them to stop immediately, either by request or immediate action.

If the pilot I described had gone into the cabin and seen said bomber doing a MacGyver with soap, cellphone, brandy, newspaper and his underpants, he probably would have consulted Tony Soprano for advice. Extensive intellectual processes, discussion and reasoning can still handle 99.9999999999% of passenger and aircrew and air marshal activities. Tony Soprano and other tv programs might be needed for the other 0.00000000001%

Mqurice