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To: GraceZ who wrote (45761)	12/14/2005 5:04:51 PM
From: shades	Respond to of 306849

I pointed this same line of reasoning out to professor MOO a ways back on his quick ignoring of Mr. Gerrymander. The generation after us Grace should make much better use of all the tools and knowledge we build and grow. Don't talk about genetics to the people in Kansas though - god created all men equal eh? Message 21607668 I put the gerrymander dude on ignore right away :) You have to understand though MOO - although you and I perhaps cannot relate through any cultural or logical means to his thought expression - to him it is perfectly logical and you and I seem like the aberrations with abnormal thought. Like those savants. I remember reading in psychology class about dendrites and axons and such, and the prof was talking about these aboriginees centuries ago who were coming into contact with some european explorers. Anyways the professor told us there were these objects - complex MECHANICAL devices - and these aboriginees simply could not comprehend certain instruction given to them about these things, no matter the amount of time involved, but thier children with the same devices were able to eventually be educated to thier use. I think the prof went on to say because the aboriginees had never encountered such things or been forced to work with them with thier hands and increase manual dexterity and the neural connections that forms in the brain as children - they just didn't have the "wiring" to ever grasp the device and could not get it - like languages - its harder for most to learn them when you get older and your brain crystalizes. So you got a gerrymander type, who says he watches cspan 1,2,and 3 for the past 25 years, spent probably many waking hours online and thinking about stuff presented there - some of the things there are very complex issues - so over many many years his dendrite and axon connections and nueral formation is not like the average run of the mill person - makes him seem very strange to the rest of us. I have seen this aberration with many chess types and obsessive types. Many times they aren't aware they are the ones with the abnormalities next to the herd. I have not read many academic studies (i guess getting funding to study crack heads is hard - hehe), but I have known many crack heads MOO - and yes they are not capable of normal function in society - but I have been shocked sometimes at the mental capabilites of these people. Idiot savant type mental maneuvering - only long after thier crack high. I want funding to this type of research, but grace tells me that is anti bible - so I fear the USA may lose this future source of scientific knowledge to other states who will have no problem altering genes and cells and chemical expressions and DNA in peoples brains to study what happens. I think she watched that movie the FLY too many times and is very scared. I have seen many people that took prozac and zoloft that saved them when I was sure they would have committed suicide without it - so from a moral and ethical issue we already are altering brains and thier chemisty - so why do these people have a problem with more detailed study but so accepting of mind altering pharmacueticals?

To: GraceZ who wrote (45761)	12/16/2005 3:51:14 PM
From: arun gera	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 306849

>One of the things I've given a lot of thought to is that math is a language of sorts and like any language early learning is very important.> Kids just learn different language skills now. Like the language of video games, media, and electronic and computer gadgets. So I am sure their brains are getting their exercise in different ways. And maybe that will change their problem solving abilities as adults. Already the baby boomers who grew up with more media than their parents, try to solve many problems by controlling the marketing message rather than by actually working on the problem. The ability to communicate well has allowed people to be successful in their societies for at least 5000 years. Investing in those skills has low risk/high reward characteristics even today. -Arun