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To: American Spirit who wrote (52443)12/14/2005 5:12:15 PM
From: redfish  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 361836
 
You have been weighted, measured, and found wanting.

Be gone.



To: American Spirit who wrote (52443)12/16/2005 7:32:30 PM
From: stockman_scott  Respond to of 361836
 
At the moment, there is the howl of outrage about the spying on US citizens. As of now, few are discussing the political and legal implications. The enormous importance of this news is hidden in the details or being glossed over:

(1) After the 60's and Nixon, the NSA was prohibited from spying on US citizens within the US by law (Congress passed, President signed).

(2) The Administration's legal justification and rational for secretly ordering such spying was set out in a legal memorandum authored by John Yoo, a Gonzales protege. Yoo - the same Yoo who wrote a Justice legal opinion defining torture so narrowly that even the Administration publicly disavowed it.

(3) The US Justice legal memorandums claim to justify domestic spying by an agency prohibited from doing so on the grounds that the Congressional resolution authorizing action against Afganhistan and al Quaeda gives them the power to do what ever they want. How is that for a sweeping and loose interpretation?

(5) If the Executive order directing such spying was done in violation of the law prohibiting such spying.... Sort of a grown up version of breaking into steal documents over a political campaign.

(4) Senate Judiciary Committee Chairman Arlen Specter (R) has said that his committee will (not might, but WILL) be holding hearings over this. McCain is definitely not pleased.

What's this mean? My husband (also a retired lawyer) was a student of Tony Scalia and tends to define issues and results narrowly in the area of constitutional law. He finished reading the reports and said "That's it then. If the evidence supports the reports, it is high crimes and misdemeanors and an impeachable offense. It's not then a question of whether impeachable offenses have been committed but whether the elections will change the House makeup enough so that he will be impeached. This would make Nixon look like a jaywalker by comparison."

Posted by: broccolli on December 16, 2005 at 02:00pm

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To: American Spirit who wrote (52443)12/18/2005 2:18:08 AM
From: stockman_scott  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 361836
 
Mr. right wing Christian Coalition Dude Ralph Reed is in a bit of trouble...

cbsnews.com

<<...The Bush Administration finds itself in a very odd place — under and sinking fast — and for them, the dislocation must be staggering. And while it is interesting to watch as the White House unveils its new candor campaign in trying to right itself, that effort may be the definition of 'too little, too late.' All you have to do to understand the extent of the GOP's problems is to look at what is going on with one-time Golden Boy Ralph Reed, who is on the 2006 ballot in Georgia. He is going under fast and taking other Republicans with him, in magenta-red Georgia no less...>>