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Politics : Israel to U.S. : Now Deal with Syria and Iran -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: GUSTAVE JAEGER who wrote (9487)	12/15/2005 10:27:38 AM
From: sea_urchin	Respond to of 22250

Gus > Now I understand why US corporations don't operate call centers in Israel --abusive callers would lead to lawsuits filed by the ADL that would ultimately cost business several billions of dollars Methinks your imagination is too vivid on this one. I'm sure the reason is that it would be too expensive to relocate the call-center to Israel. Anyway, and as I'm sure you know, all US calls are routed to an Israeli company, Amdocs, apparently for billing purposes but there's no doubt that "surveillance" also features. rense.com >>Fox News has learned that some American terrorist investigators fear certain suspects in the Sept. 11 attacks may have managed to stay ahead of them, by knowing who and when investigators are calling on the telephone. How? By obtaining and analyzing data that's generated [in Israel] every time someone in the U.S. makes a call. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: What city and state, please? CAMERON: Here's how the system works. Most directory assistance calls, and virtually all call records and billing in the U.S. are done for the phone companies by Amdocs Ltd., an Israeli-based private elecommunications company. Amdocs has contracts with the 25 biggest phone companies in America, and more worldwide. The White House and other secure government phone lines are protected, but it is virtually impossible to make a call on normal phones without generating an Amdocs record of it. In recent years, the FBI and other government agencies have investigated Amdocs more than once. The firm has repeatedly and adamantly denied any security breaches or wrongdoing. But sources tell Fox News that in 1999, the super secret national security agency, headquartered in northern Maryland, issued what's called a Top Secret sensitive compartmentalized information report, TS/SCI, warning that records of calls in the United States were getting into foreign hands - in Israel, in particular. Investigators don't believe calls are being listened to, but the data about who is calling whom and when is plenty valuable in itself. An internal Amdocs memo to senior company executives suggests just how Amdocs generated call records could be used. "Widespread data mining techniques and algorithms.... combining both the properties of the customer (e.g., credit rating) and properties of the specific 'behavior.'" Specific behavior, such as who the customers are calling. The Amdocs memo says the system should be used to prevent phone fraud. But U.S. counterintelligence analysts say it could also be used to spy through the phone system. Fox News has learned that the N.S.A has held numerous classified conferences to warn the F.B.I. and C.I.A. how Amdocs records could be used. At one NSA briefing, a diagram by the Argon national lab was used to show that if the phone records are not secure, major security breaches are possible. Another briefing document said, "It has become increasingly apparent that systems and networks are vulnerable.Such crimes always involve unauthorized persons, or persons who exceed their authorization...citing on exploitable vulnerabilities." << PS. Some while ago there were many references to Amdocs on the internet. This is the only one I could find today.

To: GUSTAVE JAEGER who wrote (9487)	12/15/2005 8:21:06 PM
From: sea_urchin	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 22250

Gus, I see your friends the CIA/MOSSAD (AKA Judeofascists by you) have been busy making race riots in New Zealand. whatreallyhappened.com I'd say it's a give-away that they call themselves "White Crusaders" and then with an internet domain in Arizona when they didn't have to put anything. >>According to the poster, the "sponsoring organization" ( to put it politely) is the "White Crusaders Of The Racial Holy War", which wins the prize for corniest name for phony intelligence front group for this century (so far). Funny thing about the "White Crusaders Of The Racial Holy War". They are located in Arizona! <<