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To: Kenneth E. Phillipps who wrote (718352)	12/15/2005 12:25:57 PM
From: Srexley	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 769670

"The economy is not doing as well as you think" A) You don't even know how well I "think" the economy is going. B) It is going MUCH BETTER than you predicted it would. C) I "think" it is going great when all the events of President Bush's tenure are considered. You know, the events that you guys don't mention when you badmouth our economy.

To: Kenneth E. Phillipps who wrote (718352)	12/15/2005 1:57:46 PM
From: Hope Praytochange	Respond to of 769670

kennyboyraven: here is your lib demohack collegue in Seoul "He told me that there were no stem cells," Mr. Roh said. "Without any cloned stem cells, he presented stem cells taken from my MizMedi Hospital." Mr. Roh added, "Nine of the 11 stem cell lines he had said he created didn't even exist." He said he was not sure that the two stem-cell lines that Dr. Hwang's team took from MizMedi to use for the June paper still existed. "The situation we have right now is this: we may still have two stem cell lines nor none," Mr. Roh said. At one point, Mr. Roh called the paper "a lie." Dr. Hwang confessed to a "crushing humiliation" and said he was sending a letter to Science retracting the June paper, Hankyoreh quoted Mr. Roh as saying. In the past week, Dr. Hwang's June paper has come under increasing scrutiny as young scientists in South Korea have raised numerous questions about its validity, including pictures of DNA traces that they cited as indications that some of the data might have been fabricated. On Wednesday, Gerald Schatten, a University of Pittsburgh researcher who had collaborated with Dr. Hwang on the paper, demanded that Dr. Hwang must retract the research paper because it probably included fabricated data. In his letter to Science, he did not present any evidence and the journal dismissed his request. But Dr. Hwang's team has been unusually silent on Mr. Schatten's letter, although it had earlier reacted angrily to any challenges to the paper's veracity. "I cannot confirm anything right now; I don't have the information," said Sung Myung Hoon, a spokesman for the World Stem Cell Hub, which Dr. Hwang had headed until last month when he relinquished the post after apologizing for ethical breaches in his 2004 work. Dr. Hwang is under increasing pressure at home and abroad to submit his findings an independent inquiry. His school, Seoul National University, is forming a panel to verify his work. Eight international leaders in cloning technology - including Ian Wilmut in England, who cloned Dolly the sheep in 1998 - urged Dr. Hwang to accept an outside test to help increase public confidence in their often controversial field of research. It takes only a day or two to determine by DNA tests whether the stem cells were indeed derived from separate patients. But Dr. Hwang's team has been unusually reluctant to make such a test. A South Korean government ethics committee unexpectedly canceled a news conference today at which it was scheduled to announce its findings on Dr. Hwang's ethical standards. The allegations against Dr. Hwang could carry far-reaching implications. If it is proved that Dr. Hwang's research used falsified data, that would be is devastating news for other stem cell scientists who have been inspired by Dr. Hwang to ramp up their research. That would also devastate the pride of South Koreans, who have lionized Dr. Hwang as a national hero. To the jealousy of other scientists, the government of President Roh Moo Hyun has provided Dr. Hwang with millions of dollars a year as well as a new laboratory, which is being constructed. It has designated Dr. Hwang's bioengineering research as one of the South Korea's future "core industries." Numerous South Korean politicians have expressed support for Dr. Hwang. In October, President Roh pledged "full support" for Dr. Hwang's ambitious plan to turn South Korean into a global stem cell research hub. An opposition leader called Dr. Hwang "the treasure among treasures." Dr. Hwang's trouble began last month when he apologized and acknowledged that his team had used eggs donated by junior scientists among the researchers, a practice widely considered unethical. Still more than 1,000 women have volunteered to donate their eggs for Dr. Hwang. Many Koreans have dismissed the allegations against Dr. Hwang as foreign jealousy. But South Korea, and especially its news media, have recently begun raising questions on whether have created a myth around Hwang.