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Politics : Don't Blame Me, I Voted For Kerry -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: Thomas A Watson who wrote (71688)	12/16/2005 11:20:16 AM
From: American Spirit	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 81568

We all know Bush too well. That is Bush's problem. As he famously said "Fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice, shame on me". He gaffed the line, but it came back to haunt him. Boys who cried wolf can never be trusted again. We now see Bush trying hard to semi tell the truth a little tensy bit. He is forced to do this becuse polls showed 58% of Americans no longer trusted him. That sets him up for impeachment so he is fighting for his own skin. He admitted the intel on Iraq was wrong, but blamed it on someone else (as usual, the buck stops elsewhere). He said he takes responsibility for the war, but hasn't yet admitted he deceived us intentionally and planned so poorly than an extra 2000 Americans got killed than was necessary to do the job. Cheney is much worse. Which is why he's hiding in his bunker and only comes out for far rightwing findraisers, like to support the indicted crook Tom Delay. Why the American people allow Cheney to get his Halliburton deals and stonewall questions and investrigators is beyond me. Cheney, like DElay and Rove, is at the center of the corruption. Those three are the Axis Of Corruption in this government. Those three must be thoroughly investigated, indicted and convicted. They have done our country great harm.

To: Thomas A Watson who wrote (71688)	12/16/2005 11:56:05 AM
From: ChinuSFO	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 81568

America is unique because the American people are unique. You said it. And that is my point also. Iraqis are not Americans. Their perception of democracy is different from that of the Americans. Americans view democracy as a responsibility to do what we ought to. Iraqis like many others view democracy as the right to do what they want to.

To: Thomas A Watson who wrote (71688)	12/16/2005 1:16:55 PM
From: Richnorth	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 81568

Nah! You are the one that is without a clue! The trouble with the past and the present US Administrations has been that whatever is good for America has to be good for others and has to be adoped by them. Not necessarily so! All too often, beneath the veneer of exporting "good" to others is a subtle (or not so subtle) motivation for gain,, economically and politically. Iraq is a classic case in point. You sounded very much like Cheney's alter-ego: what you wrote reminds of Cheney's words, "Iraq is a remarkable success story," and "The Iraqi insurgency is in its last death throes." What a joke! What bullcrap! Only a brazen liar could mouth such words! Unfortunately, many Americans don't seem to take him to task. All this partly because they are still enjoying a comfy life but mainly because they have been so dumbed down by an inadequate education system that they don't know any better and can't see through the Bushie's falsehoods and deceptions. Don't ever labour under the delusion that America's losses in Iraq are unimportant and therefore very affordable in terms of the putative gains to be had. The fact that 2000 dead US soldiers has not raised the national ire is due 1. the dead soldiers were mostly children of the poor-and-nobody folks who lack the knowledge and ability to marshall nation-wide protests and raise hell; 2. Americans are nowadays kept busy with the indictments of top government officials and political scandals in Texas and whatnot --- the American people are now sidetracked by White House and Texas scandals --- indictment of Libby and pending indictment of Karl Rove, and the indictment of DeLay and Ralph Reed & etc & etc and possible impeachment of Bush and Cheney down the road. Does America deserve to get its ass kicked? I think so. A nice kick would hopefully jolt America from its arrogance and presumptuousness and force it back down to reality! .