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To: Dale Baker who wrote (7074)	12/16/2005 5:00:12 PM
From: Paul Kern	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 540884

Hell, if we scrapped the entire Bill of Rights we could have a much more effective police and security state tomorrow, right? Hardly the goal, however, not for America. You sure? I think some of the neo-con forces would like to do nothing more. This all reminds me of the late 60s and early 70s when the forerunners of the neo-cons in the Nixon White House ran roughshod over the constitution. To quote Yogi Berra,"It's deja vu all over again."

To: Dale Baker who wrote (7074)	12/16/2005 5:02:02 PM
From: michael97123	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 540884

Do you not feel that wartime is different from peacetime as relates to this kind of surveillance? Or do you not think we are at war--War on Terror, not iraq is what would justify it? You didnt reply about the 3000 dead you dismissed when you said we could rebuild blown up buildings but not the constitution. Dont those folks count. And if it could be proven to you with 100% certainty that such an operation prevented the death of another 3000 americans, would you still argue against it. One more question--do you think FDR goofed with the camps for japanese americans?

To: Dale Baker who wrote (7074)	12/16/2005 8:46:20 PM
From: JohnM	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 540884

I suspect it will be a long time before enough facts are established to begin to guess. Then it depends how willing Congress is to let the Executive tear up the Constitution as they please when they say it's necessary. Not a small argument for the opposite parties controlling Congress and the WH.