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To: Lane3 who wrote (7140)	12/17/2005 10:50:02 AM
From: epicure	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 541025

If you don't have privacy, how do you have liberty? Privacy is an essential component of liberty. The freedom to be private is a huge aspect of liberty. Let's go to the definition: lib·er·ty ( P ) Pronunciation Key (lbr-t) n. pl. lib·er·ties 1.The condition of being free from restriction or control. 2. The right and power to act, believe, or express oneself in a manner of one's own choosing. 3. The condition of being physically and legally free from confinement, servitude, or forced labor. See Synonyms at freedom. 4. Freedom from unjust or undue governmental control. 5. A right or immunity to engage in certain actions without control or interference: the liberties protected by the Bill of Rights. A breach or overstepping of propriety or social convention. Often used in the plural. A statement, attitude, or action not warranted by conditions or actualities: a historical novel that takes liberties with chronology. An unwarranted risk; a chance: took foolish liberties on the ski slopes. A period, usually short, during which a sailor is authorized to go ashore.

To: Lane3 who wrote (7140)	12/17/2005 10:58:34 AM
From: Dale Baker	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 541025

It's one thing to say that we need a tougher security apparatus that can get the legitimate warrants it needs to justify intruding on a citizen's privacy (which is a fundamental part of liberty in the US). It's quite another to say we can't be bothered with due process, so we will elect to circumvent privacy and warrants as we see fit. We being a bunch of elected politicians and their unelected appointees who happen to be in power at the time. That is a scary threat to liberty for many of us. For others, it's Big Daddy stepping in to protect them.