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To: John Carragher who wrote (42995)12/19/2005 6:25:40 AM
From: Elroy Jetson  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 116555
 
Borrowing money to throw into a furnace, or to waste on a war which does not affect our national interests, does not keep us out of a recession.

Its like a financially irresponsible person who maintains a lavish lifestyle they cannot afford through home equity loans and increased credit card balances.

It might feel good for a while and you might feel its keeping you out of a depression, but your depression will be greatly magnified when you realize that your desperate attempt to avoid reducing your lifestyle, to what you can actually afford, has mortgaged all of your tomorrows and all of your children's as well.

If Bush had chosen to finance his fiasco in Iraq honestly, a character trait he appears to lack, he would have imposed an income tax surcharge to cover the $500 billion spent so far. Your illusion that war spending and other waste helps you avoid a recession would be quickly unmasked when it is offset by a $500 billion tax increase.

Instead, Bush decide to charge the wars to the National Credit Card. In doing so, gullible people can become convinced that the spending is free and is actually "helping the economy" rather than "devastating the nation financially" which is the actual truth.

You can't be so naive as to believe your own arguments.
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To: John Carragher who wrote (42995)12/19/2005 6:47:04 AM
From: nonrev  Read Replies (3) | Respond to of 116555
 
The NSA is tasked with keeping tabs on overseas spooking, The FBI is taksed with domestic investigations. The reasons for this are to prevent avbuses (that have happend int eh past)

Since the FISA law came into effect(1979) there have been over 18700 warrents issued for domestic spying. In that whole time only 4 were rejected and those 4 were in 200. Of those 4, 2 were later granted after the Gov't changed some of the details on teh request.

The domestic spying laws allow for spying in urgent cases without a warrent for 72 hours than a warrent must be obtained. Obtaining a warrent is usually quick and painless and not an problem (see above approval rate)

The FBI had many of the 9/11 folks under watch. They failed to put the big picture together.

The bottom line is that the President broke the law! For a reason that was not justified as the FBI has always done domestic spying.

This is another incident of the Presidents attempts to grab and abuse power. He's got to go!

nonrev