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Politics : Don't Blame Me, I Voted For Kerry -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: sandintoes who wrote (71786)	12/19/2005 11:45:35 AM
From: American Spirit	Respond to of 81568

Bush's eavesdropping was ILLEGAL, because he refused to notify any court before or after as is required. A president can order wiretapping for 72 hours without notifying a court, but then he must. Bush didn't. Bush is lying today about his wiretapping being legal. Every single senator and congressman I've heard speak about it, including threeRepublicans, are furious. Bush is doing something very anti-American. He's ignoring the checks and balances set up by our founding fathers, acting like an imperial president or emperor. Without the consent of anyone. He's a rogue presdient out of control and he needes to be taught a very big lesson, for for his sake or the DEms, but for the sake of our democracy going forward.

To: sandintoes who wrote (71786)	12/19/2005 5:39:11 PM
From: American Spirit	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 81568

Did Bush spy on journalists and Democratic opponents? Very possibly. Otherwise, why would Bush avoid using the current very streamlined laws for approving wiretaps? Only because he didn't want anyone to know who he was tapping. If he had actually been tapping terrorism suspects, the courts and congress would immediately give him leeway, but Bush did not tell anyone he was wiretapping US citizens, only a few foreigners with Al Qaida contacts. And he only reported that to a few congressmen three years later. According to Tom Daschle, he was not told about any of this. Illegally wiretapping US citizens? That's what far rightwing cheaters do. As for Clinton, there is no evidnce he ever did anything illegal except lie about cheating on his wife. He was cleared of all charges in Watergate, including filegate and everything else. Clinton is no GW Bush when it comes to breaking the law. This is about Bush, not Clinton. Apples and oranges.