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To: sea_urchin who wrote (9562)	12/23/2005 3:39:21 AM
From: GUSTAVE JAEGER	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 22250

Re: Gus > your cunning attempt at equating white racism with non-white "counter-discrimination" doesn't cut it: I didn't expect it to because you are clearly a racial bigot. Whereas you are an historical know-nothing.... You make short shrift of South Africa's history and whine and cry about the current ANC government's anti-white policies as if they befell you out of the blue! As if the sordid apartheid regime never existed. Somehow you're a negationist by omission. Gus

To: sea_urchin who wrote (9562)	12/23/2005 6:08:02 AM
From: GUSTAVE JAEGER	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 22250

Re: ...I don't know why you have such a hang-up about race, and especially white racism? Wherever you look you see it. And you don't stop looking. Whereas you don't stop grousing and whining... but then, observers familiar with white South Africans claim that you are born gripers! So, I'll no longer tease you about it, Searle --I understand that griping all the time is part of your heritage... clue: Rich whites keep wealth and poor beg Rory Carroll Tuesday April 13, 2004 The Guardian Rich white South Africans have retained their wealth in the decade since apartheid ended but many uneducated whites without skills have sunk into poverty, according to analysts. The transformation of the wheezing, protected economy bequeathed by apartheid into one that is open and globally competitive benefited those who were already at the top. Some 98% of executive directors on Johannesburg's stock exchange-listed companies are white, according to the research group BusinessMap, and they preside over 97% of the exchange's total value. Whites comprise just 10% of the population of 45 million but they occupy around 80% of all corporate positions, said Bob Mattes, of the polling group Afrobarometer. A decade ago they occupied perhaps 99.9%. Paradoxically, those who retained good jobs and lifestyles tend to complain loudest about the ANC government's shortcomings. Executives who answered a questionnaire about crime, housing, education and other issues gave doom-laden, incorrect answers, prompting the publication of two books about good news in South Africa to stop the grumbling. One of apartheid's goals was to guarantee jobs and housing to poor white Afrikaners. Apartheid's demise ended their sinecures in state employment and heavily subsidised industries. Those without useful skills have struggled to find new jobs. They are among those begging at traffic lights. Others offer to tell a joke for 20p. While canvassing in recent weeks President Thabo Mbeki said he was surprised to find whites living in poverty. Many white farmers complain bitterly about the past decade with the end of state subsidies. guardian.co.uk And again, forgive my ignorance and thanks for your patience! Gus