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To: GUSTAVE JAEGER who wrote (9602)	12/26/2005 5:51:20 AM
From: sea_urchin	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 22250

Gus > You should be aware that law itself, that is, the whole corpus of rules and legislative writings that legitimized --indeed, legalized-- South Africa's white private property, was not abolished altogether by the new ANC regime. You should be aware that the apartheid regime was not defeated in battle or overthrown by way of revolution. For what it's worth, they made a deal with the ANC that they would hand over power to them under the condition (amongst other things) that the ANC would abide by strict non-racial, democratic rules (call them what you will). The ANC was not given carte blanche (pun intended) just to take what they want from the whites.

To: GUSTAVE JAEGER who wrote (9602)	12/26/2005 11:33:57 AM
From: sea_urchin	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 22250

Gus > you and your siblings are "involved" to the extent that you, collectively, benefited from the iniquitous apartheid regime... If I benefited, it was by default. We collectively, meaning my antecedants, did not choose to benefit. We are guilty of no crime and we cannot be indicted simply because we are white and we were in SA. >You talk as if a repressive political regime that lasted more than a century could be dismantled overnight with NO, absolutely NO lingering scars on the social fabric. And what do the Belgians, including you, owe to those in their former colony, the Belgian Congo, after years of the most brutal exploitation and the rest? And you cannot say that Belgium did not benefit from the extraordinary wealth of the Congo in minerals and timber -- and therefore you are also a beneficiary. I hope you are ready to apologise -- and pay -- for the crimes of your grandfather. But you are lucky, the New York shlenter lawyers haven't got round to Belgium yet. And I wonder what the Americans owe the descendants of their grandparents'slaves? By your argument, it's plenty. You didn't by any chance study law in NY, did you?