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Politics : Canadian Political Free-for-All -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: Id_Jit who wrote (6728)	12/27/2005 12:37:23 AM
From: Stephen O	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 37263

Bigger than beer and popcorn? You bet. This should sink the Liberals Liberal Party senior official Mike Klander made a huge mistake with arguably racist and certainly rude remarks that he made in public on his blog. If you didn't think that blogs would have an effect on the election, witness the following abhorrent remarks by Klander. This disgusting artwork (h/t: Wells) is courtesy of Mr. Klander who describes himself from his website as a ...senior political organizer Mike played a significant role in building Paul Martin?s Leadership organization in Ontario. Prior to joining Martin?s team, Mike helped build a national organization for Brian Tobin and also served as his Campaign Manager in Ontario. Mike continues his autobiography in the third person: As Executive Director of the Liberal Party of Canada (Ontario) Mike was responsible for managing the day to day affairs of the Federal Liberal Party in Ontario. In that capacity he served as Ontario Campaign Director during the 2000 Federal Election Campaign. In his eight years with the organization he held several other positions including Field Organizer, and Director of Field Operations. If parents were outraged at Scott Reid's suggestion that they would be so irresponsible to "blow money on beer and popcorn", then the collective Canadian community will find the Executive Director of the Liberal Party of Canada (Ontario), the Executive Vice-President of the Liberal Party of Canada (Ontario) and Paul Martin leadership organizer's comments quite disgusting. Chow's husband, NDP leader Jack Layton is also not immune from Klander's freshman foulmouth as he describes him as "an asshole". Paul Martin's close friend only provides the following as justification for his assessment of Layton: Jack Layton is an asshole... for no reason other than it makes me feel good to say it...and because he is. Klander not only slams his NDP opponents slams members of his own team including Michael Ignatieff and Dalton McGuinty as he compares the two to Anthony Perkins. In a post titled "This campaign will piss me off", Klander makes a misogynistic comment about the "sexy Rona Ambrose" and a Parizeau-esque comment about the "ethnic Rahim Jaffir". The Executive Vice-President of the Liberal Party of Canada (Ontario) also uses sexual orientation as a derogatory insult when describing politicians (Stephen Harper and John Manley) in cowboy hats. (Klander contrasts "tough and rugged" with "gay") This breaking story is from the small dead animals blog. Klander has now resigned. Poor Martin, more bad hats in his entourage.

To: Id_Jit who wrote (6728)	12/27/2005 11:09:09 AM
From: Sawdusty	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 37263

Thanks Id_Jit, I appreciate the civil and thoughtful response, and would suggest you would be surprised by how close we are on a few issues, but on others it could be best described as irreconcilable differences. <gg> Just a couple of quick comments on some of your points: "I cannot remember, but I would guess that the U.S. also had similar unemployment levels during this timeframe." That is incorrect according to my memory, and also according to this website, although I have to admit that my memory is often faulty these days. miseryindex.us I will say that imo the US rates will seldom give a true picture as I have read many times that they count a large number of people as "no longer looking". I do recall where we suffered far more during the period, but as you say, if they get the sniffles, we catch a cold. "Canadian Prime Ministers get coated with Teflon just before their swearing in ceremony. It’s a Canadian tradition!" I agree, but that also applies to Mulroney, and I believed he was considered the slipperiest of them all, with the exception of two ridings of course. "This was a “Hidden Tax” as few Canadians actually knew of its existence." While I cannot speak to how many knew of it, I can assure you that I did. It was a business tax that was transferred to the people, much as corporate rates have dropped while personal rates have increased. I won't get into my personal analysis of the individual parties or their representatives, as you have done a pretty good job, but I have to say that I have never met a polititcian that I trusted, and I have met a few. I do wish you well in your quest to change any minds, but you could make better use of your time with others perhaps, rather than trying to convince me that Harper is good for Canada. <vbg> Regards,