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Politics : GOPwinger Lies/Distortions/Omissions/Perversions of Truth -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?


To: Crimson Ghost who wrote (60922)12/29/2005 6:58:02 PM
From: American Spirit  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 173976
 
Kidnapping and torture are not crimes Bush is being accused of, at least not in any importance or partisan sense, though we were all ashamed to see what happened at Abu Graib on Bush's watch, so we know Bushies have disgraced us as a country.

I am for very select kidnapping of terrorist suspects and happen to be friends with a former Secret Service Agent whose unit of the government is responsible for such kidnappings. I admire him and know they only kidnap Class A violator felons who have fled to nations where they feel safe and have immunity. This practice should and will continue, at least in secret, regardless of who's in the White House.

Congress did the right thing rejecting Cheney's call for torture. However, if torture is absolutely necessary in rare cases there are always ways to get it done.



To: Crimson Ghost who wrote (60922)12/29/2005 7:01:57 PM
From: American Spirit  Respond to of 173976
 
Bush is guilty of far bigger crimes. Some are proven, some are not, some are being investigated or soon will be. These are:

-Lying about pre-war intel to rush us into war unprepared
-Spying illegally on Americans (probably political opponents and critics mainly)
-Cheating to win elections. Massive voter fraud.
-Complicity in enormous energy gouging schemes.
-Selling chunks of our public wealth to corporate cronies and taking lobbyist/corporate money in exchange.
-Outing a CIA agent during war-time
-Secretly running and funding smear campaigns against rivals while claiming to have nothing to do with them.
-Obstruction of justice in Plamegate
-Paying journalists to write up false stories polluting our free press.

There might be a lot more. But I don't see kidnapping or torture on that list.