To: J.B.C. who wrote (50434 ) 1/2/2006 8:20:34 PM From: American Spirit Respond to of 93284 Boy oh boy are you FULL OF IT. Do you actually believe the crap you post? If not, let's educate your brainwashed mind. Murtha wanted to "surrender"? When? To who? Trying making the Iraqis defend their own frigging country after 2.5 years of US blood spilled, plus our presence adding to the tensions. Plus our Army is OUT OF MEN, idiot. This is not some conventional war, it's an occupation where we're using our great warriors as beat cops. It's not a smart place to be. And btw, Murtha has now finally gotteb Bush-Cheney to do 10% of what's right, to move toward ending this stupid war that had nothing to do with 9-11 or WMD. Bush ILLEGALLY ignored the FISA courts to spy on domestic enemies, maybe even democratic opponents. No excuses for that. It shakes the very foundation of democracy. It's impeachable and he admitted he did it. None of his excuses have one iota of merit to them. No legal scholars agree. Bush is busted. And the whistleblower should get a medal. Likely, Bush wasn't abusing his power to spy on Al Qaida at all, but on reporters, democrats and anti-war groups like Nixon did. The MSM is not "liberal". The only biased network is Fox and that's rightwing. All other major news services have mixtures of conservatives on them. The best ones like the Washington Post, AP, CNN and UPI have no bias whatsoever. I'm just as mad at them as conservatives are for not giving Bush enough hell. To me, they refuse to go with huge stories like election fraud in Ohio and Florida they kn ow to be true. Kerry never accused soldiers of a damn thing his entire life, you freaking liar. You sound like some duped Nazi in the 30's accusing Jews of treason. JK rightly criticized the policy-makers for ORDERING the soldiers on counter-productive missions which end up costing US lives. Soldiers do whatever they're told. Criticism is aimed at the top, not at the troops. Kerry is the #1 supporter of vets in congress. He's never dissed a troop in his life. dean repeated what he'd heard. Bush said we cannot win the war on terror. General Casey said we can't win militarily in Iraq. There is no "victory" because this isn't a war, it's an occupation we can only win politically. The average insurgency takes something like 10 years to settle down. We cannot afford to be there even one more year. Bush's occupation is the poorest-planned military op since Vietnam. Our troops do great, but the WH lied and screwed up the planning to begin with. Over 20,000 US troops are dead or maimed for life as a result. Now our military is exhausted and deserves a big long break. of course, Plame was covert. Why else would the CIA demand the special prosecutor, numbskull. What liar told you she wasn't covert? Fitzgerald stated she was covert as he opened his press conference. You calling Fitzgerald a liar too? He's the frigging Bush appointee who prosecuted Bin Lauden. Is Osama innocent to you too?