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To: Dave who wrote (23019)1/7/2006 1:56:28 PM
From: Paul Senior  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 78750
 
Dave, I'd like to believe I've got a better way to look at these asset managers, but I'm not there yet.

Here's the rule: Asset managers are overvalued if you have to pay more than 2% of their assets-under-management for the stock.

Here are the issues:

1. I don't know anything about DHIL.

2. DHIL assets-under-management figure is growing almost enormously. The rule does not take into account how much assets DHIL might have under control by year-end '06.

3. As regards the rule above, there's no clarification of assets. There's a heck of a lot more money to be earned by firms in managing $1B in equity (stocks), than can be got in managing $1B of assets that comprise government bonds. So an all-equity firm should be valued much higher than an all-bond firm - with appropriate adjustments made for firms which have managers of both types. The rule doesn't do this though.

4. I'm a guy with opinions and now a rule. No references, no historical support, no nothin'.
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My cutoff point is actually less than 2%. But 2% will work here. 2% of $1.5B = $30M. Stock's at $53M (i.e. the market cap). Therefore, stock is more than fairly valued at current price.

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Stock's had a good run in past 12 months, assets under management could increase further, stock could scoot much higher. I'll use my rule though, and I'll pass. Jmo, I could be wrong.



To: Dave who wrote (23019)2/6/2006 3:22:34 PM
From: Paul Senior  Respond to of 78750
 
Dave: Nice pick of DHIL. Assets under management growing strongly. Stock still looks too expensive to me. Ha. Market says I'm quite wrong.

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To: Dave who wrote (23019)1/13/2007 1:43:02 AM
From: Paul Senior  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 78750
 
Dave, acknowledging again your great pick of DHIL.

Fwiw, you've apparently made some people on SI a lot of money with this one. (Ha! not me though, because I came very late to the party and only with my customary few dollars. Still, I'm grateful to have something at this point (as of market close anyway. Who knows what next week will bring?)

I've started to cut back on GROW.

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