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To: MrLucky who wrote (8535)1/9/2006 11:07:08 AM
From: KonKilo  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 541604
 
Name one honest citizen who has been targeted by our intelligence system. Name one innocent man or woman whose life has been destroyed. Come on, Nancy. Give it up, Howard. Name just one.

This is a distraction from the real objection: are we a nation of laws or of men?

The president gets to unilaterally declare a never-ending, ambiguous "war" on a tactic, detain anyone he wishes, have them transferred overseas, tortured, held in secret, with no contact to family or legal representation.

He alone gets to decide who or what is a threat to our way of life and can spy on any American citizen he so chooses.

Even if his motives are pure, how about when the next president gets the same power? When does the genie go back in the bottle?

Is this the America that we want? It is the America we have today.



To: MrLucky who wrote (8535)1/9/2006 2:24:55 PM
From: Lane3  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 541604
 
I read that article earlier. I found it a bit too self-serving and a bit too much the polemic.

>>Has a single reader of this column suffered personally from our government's efforts to defend us against terrorists?<<

I think this point borders on the fatuous. I understand the point but, as a practical matter, affected people probably wouldn't know it yet.