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To: Noel de Leon who wrote (179586)	1/10/2006 1:11:12 PM
From: bentway	Respond to of 281500

What the neocons don't like to admit is that crime is much less of a problem in europe, which despite having a larger population has far less people incarcerated than the US, and has an actual social safety net to save people from homelessness, lack of medical coverage and hunger. Less of it's people are driven to crime - it's an elective in europe, not a requisite forced on people. On top of being more effective, the european solution is cheaper than our law enforcement and lock 'em up answer.

To: Noel de Leon who wrote (179586)	1/10/2006 3:34:32 PM
From: mistermj	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 281500

Sorry Noel...but even the UN doesn't buy your obvious spin. Note: Crime statistics are often better indicators of prevalence of law enforcement and willingness to report crime, than actual prevalence. Per capita figures expressed per 1,000 population. SOURCE: Seventh United Nations Survey of Crime Trends and Operations of Criminal Justice Systems, covering the period 1998 - 2000 (United Nations Office on Drugs and Crime, Centre for International Crime Prevention) Total crimes (per capita) Rank Country Amount (top to bottom) #1 Dominica 113.822 per 1,000 people #2 New Zealand 105.881 per 1,000 people #3 Finland 101.526 per 1,000 people #4 Denmark 92.8277 per 1,000 people #5 Chile 88.226 per 1,000 people #6 United Kingdom 85.5517 per 1,000 people #7 Montserrat 80.3982 per 1,000 people #8 United States 80.0645 per 1,000 people #9 Netherlands 79.5779 per 1,000 people #10 South Africa 77.1862 per 1,000 people #11 Germany 75.9996 per 1,000 people #12 Canada 75.4921 per 1,000 people nationmaster.com