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To: epicure who wrote (49125)1/11/2006 10:02:45 AM
From: Crocodile  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 104216
 
unfortunately, we run into it more often than we'd like.
we try not to feel too intolerant as it's usually families
out hiking with their kids -- more often two or three
families out together. we have a tactic that we employ
when hiking trails in the more popular parks, and that
is to hike the trail backwards -- usually the more
difficult route as trails are generally laid out so that
the regular direction has the more easy climbs and
faster descents.
very few people hike the reverse, so if we do
encounter a noisy group, we are soon past and won't
see (or hear) them again. however, once this summer,
we hiked a popular trail going in the normal direction.
and a couple of families overtook us while we were stopped
for lunch. we ended up being ahead of them, but then
their kids came running past and got very far ahead.
the parents started shouting for them, and then the kids
shouted back, and then they all tore back by, then came
back again awhile later, and more shouting, etc...
it was actually very bizarre. we ended up sitting on a log
waiting for the parents to get ahead of us and then we
hiked slowly and gave them plenty of time to move on.
granted, that was one of the less common encounters.
we've seen this most with people who seem to be from
cities and have kids that are "too cool" to be out hiking.
the kids don't want to be there and they make that pretty
obvious. i don't know what the answer is, except maybe
to get kids out into the forests at a younger age.

also, when i've done field work with high school kids,
i often find the first hour or so is sort of stressful (for me)
as they arrive very hyper. However, after a couple of
hours, they usually mellow out and are a lot quieter
and easier to work with.

getting some of them out along a river or into a forest
seems to make them go wild for a little while -- reminds
me of when you let horses out of the barn after they've
been cooped up for a few days in bad weather -- they go
out and immediately tear around, bucking and kicking for
about 10 minutes before they settle down. sometimes, i
don't think humans are much different than all of the
other animals. (o:

as for hiking in quiet places, the best strategy for us
has been to pick places where the trails are long and
difficult. those trails are usually very quiet and often
afford more opportunity to see wildlife. the other places
that people rarely go are on wetland trails - which is odd
because those are also some of the best places for wildlife
observation. we save our hikes in the more popular parks
until they're closed for camping in late fall, winter,
or early spring. We often find that we have the park
to ourselves at those times.

~croc