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To: Crabbe who wrote (3271)1/13/2006 2:13:43 AM
From: Maurice Winn  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 219680
 
I'd have to ask Google to drag out the Flynn Effect information to answer <Did the Flynn study account for age??? Most IQ tests are administered to children and young adults. Does the Flynn Effect extend into middle age??? Old age??? >

Not so: <As far as The SAT and ACT it is my understanding:

They correlate closely with IQ tests.
They are more tests of knowledge than intellectual gymnastics.
IQ tests are more tests of Intellectual gymnastics.
>

Some knowledge is needed and more is better, especially in the verbal talents section where lots of words are needed to understand what's written. But even the verbal tests are mental gymnastics tests rather than outright knowledge tests of meanings of words.

Our 13 year year old sat SAT and because he didn't know all the maths things as they hadn't done those things at school, I spent an hour or two and explained the necessary ingredients [angles in triangles and a few simple things]. It wasn't a bunch of knowledge. He did the verbal part without any training [just accumulated knowledge of words]. So I know it's not that people can do well with lots of study other than the basics. He did better than most college bound seniors who had more reason to want to do well than he did, so I know how little study it takes to get up to the knowledge needed.

At the time, I was quite interested in the SAT stuff and he got into it because he was selected during our time in Antwerp [at Antwerp International School] for the Johns Hopkins University Talent Search programme. But we came back to NZ so it was all academic <g>.

I think they've changed SAT somewhat in recent years though I haven't kept up with how.

Yes, outright intelligence testing is much more of a mental gymnastics test than the SAT which specifically assumes a fair bit of verbal knowledge and some maths knowledge. But as you say, there's a lot of correlation with IQ and SAT results. However, I'm not up with the current situation, and refer you to the SAT people for the current data and background.

Here they are, and practise tests to see how much is knowledge and how much gymnastics. collegeboard.com

Sample question here. collegeboard.com I casually answered such a stupidly easy question ..... and got it wrong!! What the... Took another look at the question and thought "Duh!! Of course. Pay attention." There's not a lot of knowledge needed.

Mqurice