To: roguedolphin who wrote (4724 ) 1/14/2006 2:50:51 PM From: E. Charters Respond to of 78426 Interesting indeed, and it can also be shown that many US companies did not stop doing business with German companies throughout the war. Although IBM tries to deny it, their equipment and punch cards were standard fare for German industry til the end of the war. The feared chemical Zyklon B (cyanide on a porous carrier), which was used for a variety of things, which everyone readily admits, was used to fumigate grain ships for rats and lice in New York harbour as early as 1916. It was hardly anything new, and despite many allegations to the contrary, was never proven to take a human life. If this chemical were used for such, it was the military secret best-kept of any. Not that it wouldn't be, but you would wonder how and why 8,000 soldiers posted at Auschwitz never breathed a word for love or money in the 60 years since those awful events? Surely someone would have guaranteed their safety for pictures, or later testimony. Even a deathbed confession. None. The ones I talked to knew nothing about it, but given the atmosphere since the 1960's, confession was certainly not encouraged. Did all that is alleged happen in the way alleged? I don't see how one can be sure. Like a religion one has to take it one faith. To establish a margin of safety it appears that not to poison the discourse of reason by not killing dissent or reasonable discussion, one would avoid being on the way down the slippery slope leading to just such infamy. It seems that the nazii party did just the opposite. All would agree they could have "gotten away" with it. (but didn't) Do we dare trust to better instincts that there be no checks and balances on our religions no matter how obviously not needed, even given massive and silent acclamation? The skulls are a real enough society that is common seen on some US university campuses and is even featured in a hollywood movie of the same name. By itself, ignoring the illustrious "connected" world leaders alleged to be members, it seems that of all human groups who agree on agendas of sorts, that its power and potential for evil is limited by its degree of power it can accrue within and to itself. All groups suffer from the same weakness and degree of trust. People from without can hardly influence them, but other more visible groups can be formed. Their power in turn is limited by their fear of political dissent. EC<:-|