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To: Maurice Winn who wrote (3437)1/16/2006 5:03:02 AM
From: TobagoJack  Read Replies (3) | Respond to of 217881
 
Hello Maurice, Thank you for the proof positive that the rest of the thread ought to treat you gently, as any village must be with the singular individual who is handicapped in some non-physical sense. Oops … politically incorrect, denigrating the singular villager so soon after speaking of whale sandwiches.

Let me make sure I understand you correctly, that according to you,

(a) gold is not money (even though I can buy stuff with it and deposit it in bank, as well as borrow against it)
(b) more money does not equate to more freedom, even though one could buy anything that is rightful to buy, including nationality papers, island resorts, and all things that are good and offer more choices, and
(c) so, contrary to what Maestro Greensputin had to say before he got senile, gold does not equal to freedom (although I do note that Greensputin, during moments of clarity, reiterated that his position had not changed in regard to gold and freedom).

As to the rest of your puzzlement, let me clarify for you the obvious:

<<can Hong Kong refuse entry to anyone they like from China, such as Hu Jintao>>

… yes, so long as he does not have the necessary papers, as I specifically wrote. Besides, I would hardly call the right to refuse entry to Hu a worthwhile trade for less freedom, that be money to Hong Kong folks, or gold, to your idol Maestro Greensputin. We must remember, he be the man who received stand ovations when visiting your neighbor’s parliament.

We in HK tend not to refuse entry to too many folks. Yes, here and there, one or too, but not many, because why? because WE ARE FREE!

We even allowed in the Korean trouble-making WTO protesters, and permitted them to swim in the polluted harbour to their hearts content, bopping up and down like so many odd looking buoys as we dug into our lunch and dinner in the comforts of home, watching them on the television.

<<Me not being allowed entry to China to spout political rants is different from a Hong Konger not being allowed into China for the same purpose.

… why? You do not believe in both the truth and the fact of One Country Two Systems? You think Britain sold Hong Kong out, cowardly shrinking away from its responsibilities?

<<people go to live in HK to make money. Then they leave. … They don't go to Hong Kong for the wild blue yonder, feeling of freedom, yearning to breathe free in the polluted air. It's primarily cash.>>

… so, gold is not money, more money is not more freedom, and so gold is not freedom. A whale sandwich is not thick, an 8-ball is not dim, and a singular villager is not non-physically handicapped.

I got the gist of your message, but clamor to differ. I live in HK precisely because I feel free here, and better yet, I am free here.

<<Thanks for the link heritage.org and I note the skids under New Zealand, sliding from number 2 behind Hong Kong to falling off the bottom of the top 10, tied with Oz/USA>>

… like I had earlier mentioned, you are so far down under that you have no comprehension of what freedom is any more.

Oh, by the way, revisionism coming up, according to the august Economist magazine economist.com , and when proven true, the genuine role model for Captain James T Kirk of the USS Enterprise would be a Chinese Moslem, and as TeoTwawKi approaches, the mean returns, why, the sweep across the star field at 1/20th the current standard cost could indeed be a clean sweep. Can you say hooray, for the good guys who did not commit murder?

Of course, there is also the minor detail that by treaty, Brunei owes the Ming Court a whole lot of moolah due to tribute payments missed, even if at a generous 1% interest on balance due, compounded annually.

There would be other details 1421.tv that requires reworking. But, heck, one small step at a time, since there is so much of it, that be time.

Chugs, J



To: Maurice Winn who wrote (3437)1/16/2006 10:59:53 AM
From: Riskmgmt  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 217881
 
Maurice
I have often heard the same thing said by immigrants in the USA. Many, Islanders from the Caribbean, people from central and So. America,Brits and Europeans especially. Never from Mexicans though apparently they have NO desire to go back.
TJ, people go to live in HK to make money. Then they leave. People need money. We did it = went to live in less desirable places because there was loads of money there. Then, having collected sufficient money, cleared out again. They don't go to Hong Kong for the wild blue yonder, feeling of freedom, yearning to breathe free in the polluted air. It's primarily cash.

The problem is nothing stays the same for long in our changing world. Brits who return after 20 or 30 years are appalled at the ratio of anglo-v-everything else, in Britain today. It isn't Home isn't the England they knew. Riding the "tube" in London today has a very third world feel to it. Some towns, Bradford, for example, more closely resemble Indian or Pakistan.

From your favorite source GOOGLE

"2. A comparison of the censuses of 1991 and 2001 shows a clear pattern of decline in the white population of the more highly ethnic local authorities in the metropolitan areas of Greater Manchester, West Midlands and West Yorkshire. The cities of Manchester, Birmingham and Bradford respectively have shown the largest overall decline in white population in each of these areas.

3. This has been accompanied by a rapid increase in the Pakistani population in these three cities by between 45.8% and 52.8%. The smaller Bangladeshi population has also seen large increases.

4. A major factor is the high rate of marriage to partners on the Indian Sub Continent which we estimate at 50-70%. This substantially increases the rate of household formation and, certainly in the first generation, the size of families."

My point here, is not to debate the correctness of immigration policy or whether it is Colonial Karma coming home to roost. Just to point out the facts. England isn't "English" anymore and it isn't safe and it isn't free. Add to that the enourmous cost of living and Hong Kong sounds a better bet.

TJ is correct in that there is much wrong with the USA today from the money expansion to political corruption and everything in between but where isn't there? If somebody knows then please enlighten me.

regards

Ray



To: Maurice Winn who wrote (3437)1/16/2006 12:14:16 PM
From: elmatador  Respond to of 217881
 
pezz Wyoming has "wild blue yonder, feeling of freedom, yearning to breathe free and unpolluted air." nto many chose that destination.

People don;t need Garden's of Eden. Nanny states of kindergarten countries.

People do what is necessary to do to make a living. If good places were attractive Vancouver would be surrouinded by a wall.

I got to Nigeria, Iran, Saudi or Thailand because that is what is necessary to do as a professional. If the monye is there I'm in...