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To: Kenneth E. Phillipps who wrote (721842)1/16/2006 12:09:02 PM
From: JDN  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 769670
 
Kenneth, I think you should read this. Its NOT partisan. jdn

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>>
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>>ESSENTIAL READING ABOUT OUR FUTURE IF WE DON'T UNITE
>>
>>Subject: What this war is all about
>>
>>This is for everyone ? regardless of your political affiliation
>>
>>I had no idea who General (Doctor) Vernon Chong is, or the source of these
>>thoughts... so when I received them, I almost deleted them - as
>>well-written as they are. But then I did a "Google search" on the General
>>and found him to be a retired Air Force Surgeon of all things and past
>>Commander of Wilford Hall Medical Center in San Antonio. So he is real,
>>is connected to Veterans affairs, and these are his thoughts. They are
>>worth reading and thinking about (the same Google search will direct you
>>to some of his other thought-provoking writings.)
>>
>>If you would like information on General Chong, go to Google and type in
>>his name. All of the following is something that everyone should read.
>>
>>
>>This WAR is for REAL!
>>
>>To get out of a difficulty, one usually must go through it. Our country is
>>now facing the most serious threat to its existence, as we know it, that
>>we have faced in your lifetime and mine (which includes WWII).
>>
>>The deadly seriousness is greatly compounded by the fact that there are
>>very few of us who think we can possibly lose this war and even fewer who
>>realize what losing really means.
>>
>>First, let's examine a few basics:
>>
>>1. When did the threat to us start?
>>
>>Many will say September 11, 2001. The answer as far as the United States
>>is concerned is 1979, 22 years prior to September 2001, with the following
>>attacks on us:
>>
>>* Iran Embassy Hostages, 1979;
>>* Beirut, Lebanon Embassy 1983;
>>* Beirut, Lebanon Marine Barracks 1983;
>>* Lockerbie, Scotland Pan-Am flight to New York 1988;
>>* First New York World Trade Center attack 1993;
>>* Dhahran, Saudi Arabia Khobar Towers Military complex 1996;
>>* Nairobi, Kenya US Embassy 1998;
>>* Da! res Salaam, Tanzania US Embassy 1998;
>>* Aden, Yemen USS Cole 2000;
>>* New York World Trade Center 2001;
>>* Pentagon 2001.
>>
>>(Note that during the period from 1981 to 2001 there were 7,581 terrorist
>>attacks worldwide).
>>
>>2. Why were we attacked?
>>
>>Envy of our position, our success, and our freedoms. The attacks happened
>>during the administrations of Presidents Carter, Reagan, Bush 1, Clinton
>>and Bush 2. We cannot fault either the Republicans or Democrats as there
>>were no provocations by any of the presidents or their immediate
>>predecessors, Presidents Ford or Carter.
>>
>>3. Who were the attackers? In each case, the attacks on the US were
>>carried out by Muslims.
>>
>>4. What is the Muslim population of the World? 25%.
>>
>>5. Isn't the Muslim Religion peaceful? Hopefully, but that is really not
>>material. There is no doubt that the predominately Christian population of
>>Germany was peaceful, but under the dictatorial leadership of Hitler (who
>>was also Christian), that made no difference. You either went along with
>>the administration or you were eliminated. There were 5 to 6 million
>>Christians killed by the Nazis for political reasons (including 7,000
>>Polish priests). (see
>><http://www.nazis.testimony.co.uk/7-a.htm>http://www.nazis.testimony.co.uk
/7-a.htm
>> ).
>>
>>Thus, almost the same number of Christians were killed by the Nazis, as
>>the six million holocaust Jews who were killed by them, and we seldom
>>heard of anything other than the Jewish atrocities. Although Hitler kept
>>the world focused on the Jews, he had no hesitancy about killing anyone
>>who got in his way of exterminating the Jews or of taking over the world -
>>German, Christian or any others.
>>
>>Same with the Muslim terrorists. They focus the world on the US, but kill
>>all in the way -- their own people or the Spanish, French or anyone else.
>>The point here is that just like the peaceful Germans were of no
>>protection to anyone from the Nazis, no matter how many peaceful Muslims
>>there may be, they are no protection for us from the terrorist Muslim
>>leaders and what they are fanatically bent on doing -- by their own
>>pronouncements -- killing all of us "infidels." I don't blame the
>>peaceful Muslims. What would you do if the choice was shut up or die?
>>
>>6. So who are we at war with? There is no way we can honestly respond
>>that it is anyone other than the Muslim terrorists. Trying to be
>>politically correct and avoid verbalizing this conclusion can well be
>>fatal. There is no way to win if you don't clearly recognize and
>>articulate who you are fighting.
>>
>>So with that background, now to the two major questions:
>>
>>1. Can we lose this war?
>>
>>2. What does losing really mean?
>>
>>If we are to win, we must clearly answer these two pivotal questions.
>>
>>We can definitely lose this war, and as anomalous as it may sound, the
>>major reason we can lose is that so many of us simply do not fathom the
>>answer to the second question - What does losing mean?
>>
>>It would appear that a great many of us think that losing the war means
>>hanging our heads, bringing the troops home and going on about our
>>business, like post Vietnam. This is as far from the truth as one can
>>get.
>>
>>What losing really means is:
>>
>>We would no longer be the premier country in the world. The attacks will
>>not subside, but rather will steadily increase. Remember, they want us
>>dead, not just quiet. If they had just wanted us quiet, they would not
>>have produced an increasing series of attacks against us, over the past 18
>>years. The plan was clearly, for terrorist to attack us, until we were
>>neutered and submissive to them.
>>
>>We would of course have no future support from other nations, for fear of
>>reprisals and for the reason that they would see, we are impotent and
>>cannot help them.
>>
>>They will pick off the other non-Muslim nations, one at a time. It will
>>be increasingly easier for them. They already hold Spain hostage. It
>>doesn't matter whether it was right or wrong for Spain to withdraw its
>>troops from Iraq. Spain did it because the Muslim terrorists bombed their
>>train and told them to withdraw the troops. Anything else they want Spain
>>to do will be done. Spain is finished.
>>
>>The next will probably be France. Our one hope on France is that they
>>might see the light and realize that if we don't win, they are finished
>>too, in that they can't resist the Muslim terrorists without us. However,
>>it may already be too late for France. France is already 20% Muslim and
>>fading fast!
>>
>>If we lose the war, our production, income, exports and way of life will
>>all vanish as we know it. After losing, who would trade or deal with us,
>>if they were threatened by the Muslims.
>>
>>If we can't stop the Muslims, how could anyone else?
>>
>>The Muslims fully know what is riding on this war, and therefore are
>>completely committed to winning, at any cost. We better know it too and
>>be likewise committed to winning at any cost.
>>
>>Why do I go on at such lengths about the results of losing? Simple.
>>Until we recognize the costs of losing, we cannot unite and really put
>>100% of our thoughts and efforts into winning. And it is going to take
>>that 100% effort to win.
>>
>>So, how can we lose the war?
>>
>>Again, the answer is simple. We can lose the war by "imploding." That
>>is, defeating ourselves by refusing to recognize the enemy and their
>>purpose, and really digging in and lending full support to the war effort.
>>If we are united, there is no way that we can lose. If we continue to be
>>divided, there is no way that we can win!
>>
>>Let me give you a few examples of how we simply don't comprehend the life
>>and death seriousness of this situation.
>>
>>President Bush selects Norman Mineta as Secretary of Transportation.
>>Although all of the terrorist attacks were committed by Muslim men between
>>17 and 40 years of age, Secretary Mineta refuses to allow profiling. Does
>>that sound like we are taking this thing seriously? This is war! For the
>>duration, we are going to have to give up some of the civil rights we have
>>become accustomed to. We had better be prepared to lose some of our civil
>>rights temporarily or we will most certainly lose all of them permanently.
>>
>>And don't worry that it is a slippery slope. We gave up plenty of civil
>>rights during WWII, and immediately restored them after the victory and in
>>fact added many more since then.
>>
>>Do I blame President Bush or President Clinton before him?
>>
>>No, I blame us for blithely assuming we can maintain all of our Political
>>Correctness and all of our civil rights during this conflict and have a
>>clean, lawful, honorable war. None of those words apply to war. Get them
>>out of your head.
>>
>>Some have gone so far in their criticism of the war and/or the
>>Administration that it almost seems they would literally like to see us
>>lose. I hasten to add that this isn't because they are disloyal. It is
>>because they just don't recognize what losing means. Nevertheless, that
>>conduct gives the impression to the enemy that we are divided and
>>weakening. It concerns our friends, and it does great damage to our
>>cause.
>>
>>Of more recent vintage, the uproar fueled by the politicians and media
>>regarding the treatment of some prisoners of war, perhaps exemplifies best
>>what I am saying. We have recently had an issue, involving the treatment
>>of a few Muslim prisoners of war, by a small group of our military police.
>>These are the type prisoners who just a few months ago were throwing their
>>own people off buildings, cutting off their hands, cutting out their
>>tongues and otherwise murdering their own people just for disagreeing with
>>Saddam Hussein.
>>
>>And just a few years ago these same type prisoners chemically killed
>>400,000 of their own people for the same reason. They are also the same
>>type enemy fighters, who recently were burning Americans, and dragging
>>their charred corpses through the streets of Iraq [and Mogadishu].
>>
>>And still more recently, the same type enemy that was and is providing
>>videos to all news sources internationally, of the beheading of American
>>prisoners they held [one, David Berger, remember?].
>>
>>Compare this with some of our press and politicians, who for several days
>>have thought and talked about nothing else but the "humiliating" of some
>>Muslim prisoners -- not burning them, not dragging their charred corpses
>>through the streets, not beheading them, but "humiliating" them.
>>
>>Can this be for real?
>>
>>The politicians and pundits have even talked of impeachment of the
>>Secretary of Defense. If this doesn't show the complete lack of
>>comprehension and understanding of the seriousness of the enemy we are
>>fighting, the life and death struggle we are in and the disastrous results
>>of losing this war, nothing can.
>>
>>To bring our country to a virtual political standstill over this prisoner
>>issue makes us look like Nero playing his fiddle as Rome burned -- totally
>>oblivious to what is going on in the real world. Neither we, nor any
>>other country, can survive this internal strife. Again I say, this does
>>not mean that some of our politicians or media people are disloyal. It
>>simply means that they are absolutely oblivious to the magnitude, of the
>>situation we are in and into which the Muslim terrorists have been pushing
>>us, for many years.
>>
>>Remember, the Muslim terrorists stated goal is to kill all infidels! That
>>translates into ALL non-Muslims -- not just in the United States, but
>>throughout the world.
>>
>>We [Americans] are the last bastion of defense.
>>
>>We have been criticized for many years as being 'arrogant.' That charge
>>is valid in at least one respect. We are arrogant in that we believe that
>>we are so good, powerful and smart, that we can win the hearts and minds
>>of all those who attack us, and that with both hands tied behind our back,
>>we can defeat anything bad in the world!
>>
>>[The truth is] We can't!
>>
>>If we don't recognize this, our nation as we know it will not survive, and
>>no other free country in the world will survive if we are defeated [in
>>this war against islamo-fascist fanatics, set to kill ALL infidels; that's
>>ANY non-muslim!].
>>
>>And finally, name any Muslim countries throughout the world that allow
>>freedom of speech, freedom of thought, freedom of religion, freedom of the
>>press, equal rights for anyone -- let alone everyone, equal status or any
>>status for women, or that have been productive in one single way that
>>contributes to the good of the world. [We can?t because there aren't any!]
>>
>>This has been a long way of saying that we must be united on this war or
>>we will be equated in the history books to the self-inflicted fall of the
>>Roman Empire. If that is, the Muslim leaders will allow history books to
>>be written or read.
>>
>>If we don't win this war right now, keep a close eye on how the Muslims
>>take over France in the next 5 years or less. They will continue to
>>increase the Muslim population of France and continue to encroach little
>>by little, on the established French traditions. The French will be
>>fighting among themselves, over what should or should not be done, which
>>will continue to weaken them and keep them from any united resolve.
>>Doesn't that sound eerily familiar?
>>
>>Democracies don't have their freedoms taken away from them by some
>>external military force. Instead, they give their freedoms away,
>>politically correct piece by politically correct piece.
>>
>>And they are giving those freedoms away to those who have shown,
>>worldwide, that they abhor freedom and will not apply it to you or even to
>>themselves, once they are in power.
>>
>>They have universally shown that when they have taken over, they then
>>start brutally killing each other over who will be the few who control the
>>masses. Will we ever stop hearing from the politically correct, about the
>>"peaceful Muslims"?
>>
>>I close on a hopeful note, by repeating what I said above. If we are
>>united, there is no way that we can lose. I hope now after the election,
>>the factions in our country will begin to focus on the critical situation
>>we are in, and will unite to save our country. It is your future we are
>>talking about! Do whatever you can to preserve it.
>>
>>After reading the above, we all must do this not only for ourselves, but
>>our children, our grandchildren, our country and the world.
>>
>>Whether Democrat or Republican, conservative or liberal and that includes
>>the Politicians and media of our country and the free world!
>>
>>Please forward this to any you feel may want, or NEED to read it. Our
>>"leaders" in Congress ought to read it, too.
>>
>>There are those that find fault with our country, but it is obvious to
>>anyone who truly thinks through this, that we must UNITE!
>>



To: Kenneth E. Phillipps who wrote (721842)1/16/2006 4:12:49 PM
From: DuckTapeSunroof  Respond to of 769670
 
An interesting note from the Economist. Measured in the usual
way - inflation plus unemployment - the misery index in the United States
has gone down. Both numbers are low...making the country less miserable
than its rivals in Europe, for example.

But the numbers are misleading, say analysts at Merrill Lynch. A proper
look at misery should include GDP growth rates, interest rates, budget and
trade balances, they say. When they use these additional numbers they get
a different result completely: the United States "is the most wretched
economy among the big G7 countries."

Who you gonna believe?

By the way, the Merrill Lynch numbers show that our neighbors to the north
should be happier than we are. Canada has only half as much misery as the
United States, according to the new index.



To: Kenneth E. Phillipps who wrote (721842)1/16/2006 6:23:00 PM
From: Hope Praytochange  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 769670
 
kennyboy: Countries agree Iran must halt nuclear activity
U.S., EU persuaded Russia, China to take action on Tehran

The Associated Press
Updated: 2:55 p.m. ET Jan. 16, 2006

LONDON - Russia and China agreed with the United States and its European allies Monday that Iran must fully suspend its nuclear program, but the countries stopped short of demanding referral to the U.N. Security Council, Britain’s Foreign Office said.

The agreement was announced after Russian President Vladimir Putin held out the possibility of a compromise, saying Iran has not ruled out conducting its uranium enrichment in Russia, a proposal that was floated last year.

“We have heard various opinions from our Iranian partners on that issue. One of them has come from the Foreign Ministry — our partners told us they did not exclude the implementation of our proposal,” Putin said in Moscow after meeting with German chancellor Angela Merkel.

Putin said Moscow’s position is “very close” to that of the U.S. and the European Union. But he added that “it’s necessary to work carefully and avoid any sharp, erroneous moves.”

The announcement came on the same day as Iran barred CNN from reporting on the country due to a mistranslation of the president's comments on nuclear research, according to the Iranian Culture and Guidance Islamic Ministry.

Britain, France and Germany, backed by Washington, want Iran to be referred to the Security Council, which can impose sanctions.

But Russia and China, which have close commercial ties with Iran, have resisted such a move in the past and could stymie efforts against Tehran as veto-wielding members of the U.N. body.

'Serious concern'
The British Foreign Office said all five permanent members of the Security Council — the U.S., Britain, France, Russia and China — and Germany had shown “serious concern over Iranian moves to restart uranium enrichment activities.”

They agreed on the need for Iran to “return to full suspension,” according to the statement.

Diplomats from Britain, France and Germany also informed officials from Russia, China and the United States that they plan to call for an emergency board meeting of the U.N. nuclear watchdog next month. The 35-nation IAEA board, which could refer the issue to the Security Council, will discuss what action to take against Iran.

Representatives of the six countries held a daylong meeting in London in a bid to reach consensus over what action to take after Iran removed U.N. seals from its main uranium enrichment facility last week and resumed research on nuclear fuel, including small-scale enrichment, after a 2½-year freeze.

The move alarmed the West, which fears Iran intends to build an atomic bomb. Iran claims its program is peaceful, intended only to produce electricity and it has threatened to end cooperation the U.N. nuclear watchdog if it is brought before the Security Council.

The Russian proposal would ensure oversight so that uranium would be enriched only as much as is needed for use in nuclear power plants and not to the higher level required for weapons.

European diplomats had said in recent days there were signs that Russia, which is deeply involved in building Iranian reactors for power generation, is leaning toward referral. Putin’s comments, though, seemed to suggest he was still looking for other alternatives.

China cautious
China, which is highly dependent on Iranian oil, has warned that hauling Iran before the Security Council would escalate the situation.

The Foreign Ministry in Beijing took a cautious tone.

“China believes that under the current situation, all relevant sides should remain restrained and stick to solving the Iranian nuclear issue through negotiations,” the ministry said in a statement.

Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice said the vote on referral “ought to be as soon as possible.”

“We’ve got to finally demonstrate to Iran that it can’t with impunity just cast aside the just demands of the international community,” Rice said Sunday during a trip to Africa.

Speaking before Monday’s talks in London, British Foreign Secretary Jack Straw said the “onus is on Iran” to prove its program is peaceful. He said the international community’s confidence had been “sorely undermined by a history of concealment and deception” by Iran.

Straw said the dialogue with Russia and China was of “crucial importance.”

British Prime Minister Tony Blair’s official spokesman said the London talks signaled “growing international concern at the behavior of the Iranian government and at ... the words of the Iranian president,” who has called for Israel to be “wiped off the map” and said the Nazi Holocaust a “myth.”

Plans for more power plants
Iranian state radio, meanwhile, reported that the government had allocated the equivalent of $215 million for the construction of what would be its second and third nuclear power plants. Iran plans to build 20 more nuclear plants, and Russia has offered to build some of them.

Monday’s talks aimed to build consensus on what action to take ahead of an emergency board meeting of the International Atomic Energy Agency, the U.N. nuclear watchdog, expected in February.

The Vienna, Austria-based agency has found Iran in violation of an international treaty intended to stop the proliferation of nuclear weapons technology. But it has not yet voted on whether to refer Iran to the Security Council.

Straw reiterated that military action against Iran is not an option.

He also said sanctions were not inevitable even if the nuclear dispute is referred to the Security Council, saying other countries had complied with council demands without the need for sanctions.

In Russia, lawmaker Andrei Kokoshin, a former National Security Council head, told www.strana.ru, a Web site close to the Kremlin, that “the extreme positions that are present in both Washington and Tehran are making it considerably harder for Russia to facilitate a way out of the crisis.”

U.S. Undersecretary of State Nicholas Burns and Russian Deputy Foreign Minister Sergei Kislyak attended the talks, joined by senior diplomats from Britain, France and Germany.

Zhang Yan, director of China’s Arms Control Department, represented Beijing, China’s Foreign Ministry said. Straw did not attend.

Economic sanctions targeting oil and gas exports are thought unlikely. Iran is OPEC’s second-largest producer and preventing it from doing business could disrupt the world’s energy markets.

Nevertheless, Blair’s spokesman, speaking on condition of anonymity in keeping with government policy, said the international community would not be bowed by Iranian threats that economic sanctions could cause oil prices to jump.