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To: carranza2 who wrote (3580)1/18/2006 11:16:27 AM
From: elmatador  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 217948
 
Hi C2! Long time no hear. The whole vested interests in the supremacy of one currency vs another is mind bogling. Thus it is very unlikely to a small group topple the USD.

If someone, seriously tried to toppled the USD, it wold be for financial gain. Knwoing that they are after gain, the vested interest in the USD would call the guys intersted in toppling the US and they would seat around a table and would settle the matter.

To avoid that type of confrontation (used to be called beg thy neighbor) the vested interests created a cartel of currencies called the G7 and a couple fo multilatEral institutions called IMF, World Bank and GATT.

This worked until August 1972 when Nixon said US won;t buy gold at fixed priced and send the Yen and DM up,, you know the story. I'm just writing for people to keep an historical perspetcive on how those things are done.

If the USD is toppled one day IT WON'T BE BY THE EURO

Most likely by another cartel of currencies, perhaps, Yuan+Yen+a dozen other currencies.



To: carranza2 who wrote (3580)1/18/2006 5:51:05 PM
From: Cogito Ergo Sum  Respond to of 217948
 
Great... just when I thought Stratfor was finally posting something worth reading .... LOL
Message 22071302

Oh I see you've spotted it already...

Stll crazy after all these years..
Al



To: carranza2 who wrote (3580)1/18/2006 11:38:38 PM
From: Maurice Winn  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 217948
 
C2, I can think of one way in which the Mad Mullahs are helping the USA. They are chasing away people like Allen Salmasi, who Google can report on. Without him and Omninet, there might not have been an OmniTRACS and there might not have been a CDMA [not for some time anyway, but at some stage the physics and markets would have pushed in that direction].

<The Next Big Thing for all the fools who ignore markets for political reasons will be converting all those Euros into gold-backed Islamic dinars.

I say the Islamists are working for us, doing the best they can to foster our empire, and we should act as if they are infact a threat.
>

Many many people leave Iran, India, China, New Zealand and elsewhere, joining the USA, or USA companies in their own countries, supporting USA economic might. I'm in with capital and made most of our income from association with USA interests over the decades.

Gold and Islamic dinars looks like another loser for the atavistic mullahs of Islam. I suppose they hope that their Aztec ways will come to the fore and defeat the cyberspace realm of Big Ben's and Uncle Al KBE's pixelation and auction processes.

Mqurice



To: carranza2 who wrote (3580)1/19/2006 7:58:13 AM
From: TobagoJack  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 217948
 
Hello carranza2, Our roles seem to have switch, with you being the skeptic and I being the main streamer. But then actually not, because, as indicated by real estate, bonds, and the equity markets, there are no clear and present emergencies, and according to gold, all is still tolerable.

I remember you were never big on gold in any case.

The truth about differences of view regarding political and geopolitical progression is that we actually do not have to argue until we are blue in the face, because if you are correct, you don’t have to argue, and if I am wrong, I cannot afford to argue.

The reason I engage the likes of Maurice and Crabbe in typewriter combat is that their ideas are simply dangerous, and they do not even know they are dangerous, thus making them the “must resist” targets.

Now, back to Iran, I was quite clear in the post that you responded to
Message 22072072 ”it reads true to me, or at least partially true, or ought to be true, or, might as well be true, at least as a working hypothesis, a stake in the ground, around which we can ponder, and with which we can triangulate, once we spike another stake into the ground

fwiw, the point of departure as indicated by above works well into my road map toward teotwawki dawn, the point of arrival

and i might add, the drama of empire vs rebellion excites me

… as matters stand, we will either have global nuclear democracy, or we will have pre-emptive and forever wars, all complicated by a whole lot of things, and oil”


… and that remains my attitude in its totality.

To sum up, I do not care nearly as much about points of departure as I do about points of arrival.

Speaking of points of arrival, I went back in time, to dig up our earlier discussions about points of arrival, and look


Message 16945416
January 22nd, 2002

Hi carranza2, If we are in a situation that tends towards global deflation, and I believe we are, on the manufacturing side, then the authorities around the globe, each individually, for their respective interests and to cover respective mistakes, will print, and print some more, from the US to China, Japan to Argentina, Russia to Turkey, (I do not know about Euro zone and AustraAsia) and then print still more. Even as they act individually, the effect will be the same as if they acted in concert, and thus ‘get away with it’.

Ultimately inflation will win, at least on the services side, and maybe on the real estate side, probably on certain commodities, and possibly on gold, if it is not already, depending on definition used, I believe, because the levitating power of printed money is like gravity, inexorable.

Between manufacturing deflation, service inflation, relocation of factories, spreading of income generation, overall increase in demands for commodities, wealth (what is left of it) will be redistributed, from developed countries to China/India/Russia, from creditors to debtors, from Japan to the US/Europe/China, from the world to Argentina (in a manner of speaking, on what is left of it).

The abracadabra realization has not happened as yet: that as wealth and wealth generation is spread around, growth of wealth per person will be possibly less.

I do not know what happens when folks, companies and media reach this conclusion. They may just spin it as, ‘everyone will be richer, and the multiplier effect will make growth happen even faster, at a higher rate, for more prolonged period.

I just do not know. In any case, we got a while to go yet. Today (my last night) I sold some NEM June Covered Call, strike price 20. Expecting NEM to meander at 20 between now and then, or to drop due to merger dilution.

I am doing currency moves, and selling covered calls, all before January is done with!? 2002 will be a busy year:0)
Chugs, J


… and, here, again


Message 16945635
January 22nd, 2002

Hi Carranza2, …
I could be all wrong on this, and I am certainly not an expert on cause-effect, but,

(a) Because of manufacturing outsourcing, mostly offshore to the developed countries, manufacturing deflation proceeds, picking up speed as more of China/India/Russia (yes, Russia will be back) gets more and more into the act;

(b) Service inflation in developed countries, due to money printing, will also pickup speed. As in USD 500k will earn enough interest for 1.5 Big Mac meals per week;

© More folks around the world making a ‘living wage’ will put pressure on commodities; witness China’s effect on any given commodity trading when buying;

(d) Inflation is bad for creditors and ‘good’ for debtors;

(e) Manufacturing deflation is bad for developed economies, and ‘good’ for developing economies.

When ‘good’ and ‘bad’ are used as labels, folks forget that each coin has two sides, and both sides effect the economy, good and bad, but certainly tipping it from one golden equilibrium to another one, sometimes not so golden. So I am with you on <<The trend is not good … getting uglier>>.

I am with you on the real estate in beautiful places hedge.

I am not with you on <<Forget the dripping-with-blood-Aztec gold>> hedge.

I just do not know.
Chugs, J


… and now, here we are, a point of arrival from which we can look back, and appreciate the splendor that was, and discuss the splendor that could be.

Chugs, J