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To: sylvester80 who wrote (180274)	1/19/2006 9:53:21 AM
From: Hawkmoon	Respond to of 281500

So voting for it didn't mean sht (which is why most of them didn't vote).* Can you prove that "most didn't vote"? I really don't know. But the bottom line is that due process was provided and the affected property owners had an opportunity to make their case in front of the voters. Which now, after the SC vote, is no longer required. The government can just "condemn" a property, assess what is "fair value" and compensate according to that assessment, and then turn around and sell the property to some developer. My view is that the property owner MUST be provided an opportunity to take his/her case in front of the voters, or to be permitted to have a stakeholdership in the new development so that they have a chance to realize potential capital gains. Btw, if you think what Bush's people may have done with that Stadium, I wonder what you think about what Al Gore did with Elk Hills Oil reserve?? (I hit you with that in another post).. Hawk

To: sylvester80 who wrote (180274)	1/19/2006 10:15:10 AM
From: Hawkmoon	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 281500

Here's some REAL CORRUPTION on the part of Al Gore that NO US VOTER was permitted to participate in. corpwatch.org While the scandal scuttled ARCO's plans, Occidental succeeded in acquiring Elk Hills seventy five years later. In 1997, after Gore's recommendation the land be sold, Oxy bought the region from the federal government for $3.7 billion. The sale represented a tripling of the company's U.S. oil reserves. Mired for years by declining reserves, Occidental's revenues for the first quarter of this year showed a dramatic 87 percent increase from the same period in 1999, before it began operations in the Elk Hills............ .........The Elk Hills sale, not surprisingly, was quickly approved. "I can't say that I've ever seen an environmental assessment prepared so quickly," says Peter Eisner, director of the Washington-D.C. public advocacy group Center for Public Integrity. newsmax.com The sale of this government oil field to Occidental Petroleum may have directly benefited Al Gore through his ownership of Occidental stock. While his aides denied Gore encouraged this sale, his booklet "Reinventing Government" called on the government to sell these precious oil reserves. Gore wrote "...Elk Hills Naval Petroleum Reserves... no longer serves its original strategic purpose for the Navy." The whole bidding process was sealed, so we'll apparently never know what the other 22 bidders offered for Elk Hills. However, we can see how the sale of Elk Hills to OXY has affected Gore's stock holdings in the company over the past 10 years: bigcharts.marketwatch.com And here's another article the source of which even you can't seriously challenge, "The Nation": thenation.com Bottom line.. Even had Gore won in 2000, you'd still have an president who could legitimately be tagged as an "oil" president. Hawk