To: GraceZ who wrote (51012 ) 1/23/2006 5:15:41 PM From: shades Respond to of 110194 We got there incrementally. This is why the Fed's habit of incrementally raising rates, while it seems rational is very dangerous. If you watch the way free markets operate they almost always move to an extreme on the other side of neutral before they come back, they don't operate on a smooth incremental approach. Without the pain caused by the extreme, excesses aren't rung out. The lemmings get to the side of that cliff they cant see one step at a time eh?What happened that got us to 19.10% was that every time the Fed raised the economy adjusted to the new regime. We got there one small step after another. I think greenspan just said GSE stuff worries him because folks keep feeling the government gonna be the ultimate safetynet. Of course they followed up rate increases with plenty of coupon passes back then because Congress wanted them to do their job without the pain of any Americans losing their jobs. Coupon Passes - I posted where the fed did one of those today - monetize the debt baby! The thing that is different now is that, with a global Its different this time - OK here comes the money line guys:work force, it would be impossible to protect American jobs with monetary policy measures. Mish got upset that schumer was gonna throw up 25% trade barriers over a few underwear jobs - Bhagwati says the rising tide lifts all boats. People in old germany got hitler in power to save thier jobs - 6 million less jews suddenly reduced the labor supply eh? heheThe trade situation now is far more integrated. We are net debtors, something you continuously point out. But what you fail to point out is that we are net creditors in FDI and foreign equities. A 5% drop in the dollar results in a 10% capital gain in the assets we own that are denominated in foreign currency. The US owns 5.4 trillion in assets (as of the end of 2004) that are denominated in foreign currency. Succo said watch that trade deficit and foreign money flows to finance it, buffet said watch it, chromatic dispersion said watch it, they all think it is bad - Mosler says it is good and wants it to grow. Chromatic says if those foriegn assets go down in value from whatever shock - we are TOAST. Say china collapsing for overextension of bad allocations - I remind you of the hungry 40's - the 1840's of the USA - England sent us all kinds of money to build out roads and canals - we were the china then - them the USA - we built them then imploded - defaulted on the debt - many british lost thier asses - and Charles Dickens wrote about the cultural effect of it in his book - A Christmas Carol where scrooges fine british assets are turned into worthless american ones - BWAHAHA!Here's an interesting paper which covers this:newyorkfed.org ; Why you still trust them - didn't ahaha teach you not to listen to those clowns - with thier constant changing concepts of progress - ala the changing definition of velocity of money?This is not to say that a drop in the dollar wouldn't be inflationary, it would be primarily because it would allow less efficient US companies to raise prices of goods sold here. OTOH the dollar retreat from 2001 to 2004 was largely eaten by our trading partners in Asia. Right now the only thing forcing US companies not to raise prices is foreign competition, the same thing is keeping wages in check. Inflation can't accelerate if there is a lid on prices. Yah, hard to compete with chinese when you have to offer pensions and OSHA standards and no child labor - when did business profit and efficiency come before the idea of "america" and our good society? Progress at all costs eh? I sure know new couples trying to buy thier first home think there is inflation. Luckily the CPI doesnt track that - so they just need to rent.