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To: mishedlo who wrote (45052)1/23/2006 5:48:11 PM
From: CalculatedRisk  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 116555
 
ROFLOL. Did you write that?



To: mishedlo who wrote (45052)1/23/2006 7:39:18 PM
From: NOW  Respond to of 116555
 
hilarious MIsh!
But frightening too: the bogeyman will have folks prepared to agree to any sort of travesty of justice and sell this countries dream down the river....



To: mishedlo who wrote (45052)1/23/2006 8:18:06 PM
From: CalculatedRisk  Respond to of 116555
 
This answers the question on warrantless spying on Americans ... these clowns can't read!

GEN. HAYDEN: Just to be very clear -- and believe me, if there's any amendment to the Constitution that employees of the National Security Agency are familiar with, it's the Fourth. And it is a reasonableness standard in the Fourth Amendment. And so what you've raised to me -- and I'm not a lawyer, and don't want to become one -- what you've raised to me is, in terms of quoting the Fourth Amendment, is an issue of the Constitution. The constitutional standard is "reasonable." And we believe -- I am convinced that we are lawful because what it is we're doing is reasonable.

THE FOURTH AMENDMENT:
"The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized."

The standard is "probable cause". What a clown!

Read the exchange here:
Message 22091980

Note: Gen. Hayden is PRINCIPAL DEPUTY DIRECTOR OF NATIONAL INTELLIGENCE AND FORMER DIRECTOR OF THE NATIONAL SECURITY AGENCY