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To: mikeslemmer who wrote (28)1/23/2006 8:34:47 PM
From: Stewart Whitman  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 218
 
I agree with you that I need a big list of exchange traded liquid stocks.

Very interesting example, NOOF. When I run my analysis on it, I get the following:

Last Trade: 6.42
Market Cap: 146760
Cash And Cash Equivalents: 16568
Total Current Assets: 38656
Total Current Liabilities: 4957
Property Plant and Equipment: 3096
Intangible Assets: 9259
Other Assets: 836
Long Term Investments: 9617
Long Term Debt: 0
Minority Interest: 0
Preferred Stock: 0
Redeemable Preferred Stock: 0
Total Common Debt: 0
Net Fixed Assets: 22808
Earnings Before Interest And Taxes: 16007
Total Other Income/Expenses Net: 837
Non Recurring: -546
Adjusted EBIT: 14624
Excess Cash: 16568
Enterprise Value: 130192
Net Working Capital: 17131
Market Cap 146760 Price $6.42 Capital 36.616% Earnings 11.233%

But I see on the magic formula investing site, I see:

Market Cap: 148.60
Earnings Yield: 12%
Return on Capital: > 100%

The earnings yield is very close and could have to do with the calculation of Excess Cash (which might need to include more short term investment). But since the both Cash, Short Term investments & Long Term investments appear to be excess cash, I'd say the EV is around $108 million, and Earnings Yield should be around 13% to 15%.

The ROC probably has to do with whether you include Intangible Assets or Long Term assets are included in the calculation. Since I counted both, my ROC is around 36. But since Long Term assets are marketable securities, they should not be calculate, the value should indeed be more like > 100% at minimum.

That question of whether Intangible Assets should be included is a real big one. I think that why stocks like BSX are rated so much lower in my scans than on the magic formula investing.

Regards,
Stew



To: mikeslemmer who wrote (28)1/24/2006 10:40:05 AM
From: Dave  Respond to of 218
 
Mike:

RE: "One solution would be to use the average earnings yield across the last few years."

I would think taking average earnings over the past 3 to 5 years would probably be the best way and then divide by current market cap to determine the earnings yield.