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To: Chispas who wrote (45235)	1/25/2006 10:42:41 PM
From: shades	Respond to of 116555

I have read all that history - but they have so many other ways to GET you if they want to CONTROL you - look at martha stewart - look at the first SURVIVOR: Richard Hatch, who won $1 million in the first season of CBS’s “Survivor” television series, was convicted of tax evasion and faces up to 13 years in prison. Hehe - not such a FINANCIAL survivor eh? Taking 3 million homeland security people and staking them out at all the banks all over the country and then going in to get your shiny metal - come on. The government can do a lot of MACRO indirect things to impoverish you - but you start beating on a rodney king - and people get really pissed off. If they did this - you think they don't know some psycho like mogambo wouldnt go get his shotgun and start mass anarcy - it is just too wild to even be believable. You know at the border we got MINUTE MEN stopping the illegals - the gubbment does not like that - but they DARE NOT stop them or shoot one of those boys - they know if they did that 5 million rednecks with lots of guns and flags would go on a rampage - mish and russ show you right - worry about coupon passes and inflation and high medical bills and immigrants taking your job for cheaper - that is how they will rob you - not sending thugs into a bank to take shiny metal

To: Chispas who wrote (45235)	1/25/2006 10:45:28 PM
From: shades	Respond to of 116555

I remember some senator in 1932 all pissed off the banks were foreclosing on tons of farms and farmers and said it was to pay off debts to foreigners and the gubbment had betrayed the american people - he had a couple assassination attempts - my grandpa lost a farm in that mess - but no one came looking for his shiny metal.

To: Chispas who wrote (45235)	1/25/2006 10:57:55 PM
From: shades	Respond to of 116555

Chispas - the gubbment does not require folks to tell you your IDENTITY has been compromised - this is a BIG problem - CYBER war is bad - I have had several family members affected by this - several friends too - one went bankrupt - richard stallman wrote a book a while back where he tried to stop these Agent Smiths - but its the wild west out there on the matrix right now. biz.yahoo.com Ameriprise Notifies Clients of Data Theft Wednesday January 25, 10:44 pm ET By Steve Karnowski, Associated Press Writer Ameriprise Financial Notifies 226,000 Clients of Data Theft MINNEAPOLIS (AP) -- Ameriprise Financial Inc. said Wednesday it has notified about 226,000 people that their names and internal account identification numbers were stored on a laptop computer that was stolen from an employee's vehicle. ADVERTISEMENT Ameriprise said it also alerted 68,000 current and former financial advisers whose names and Social Security numbers were also stored on the same computer. The company says it has more than 2 million customers and about 10,500 current financial advisers. The Minneapolis-based company said it had received no reports that the data lost in the theft had been used improperly. Ameriprise is the name of the former American Express Financial Advisors division, which New York-based American Express Co. spun off last fall. Ameriprise said the theft appeared to be a "random criminal act" and that it has been working with law enforcement to recover the laptop, which it said was stolen recently from an employee's locked vehicle that was parked offsite. Company spokesman Steve Connolly said the laptop was stolen in late December outside Minnesota, but he declined to say where. "We don't want to pinpoint the location because we don't want to compromise the ongoing investigation," Connolly said. Ameriprise said there was no other client-identifying information on the computer such as Social security numbers, addresses, phone numbers or birth dates. The computer did not have data on accounts outside of Ameriprise, such as credit card numbers or bank account information. It also said the client accounts could not be accessed with the information that was stored on the computer because Ameriprise does not allow access via account numbers alone without additional personal information provided only by the client. Ameriprise is offering the affected current and former employees a free credit monitoring program for a year. The federal government does not require companies to notify consumers when their private information has been compromised and could be used by identity thieves. Some states, including California do, and when large companies doing business in them comply with their laws, consumers around the country learn about the breaches. Last summer, 40 million consumer accounts, primarily MasterCard and Visa accounts, were exposed to possible fraud due to a breach at Atlanta-based CardSystems Solutions Inc., which processes credit card and other payments for banks and merchants. Other companies that have faced recent problems with data theft or losses include Citigroup Inc., ChoicePoint Inc., LexisNexis Inc., Bank of America Corp., DSW Shoe Warehouse and BJ's Wholesale Club Inc. According to the Federal Trade Commission, nearly 10 million people fall victim to identity theft each year, costing consumers $5 billion in losses and businesses nearly $50 billion. ameriprise