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To: Solon who wrote (44966)	1/30/2006 4:24:03 PM
From: TimF	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 90947

No, it is NOT. UNLESS the agent is corrupt, then he/she is simply protecting my/your rights and freedoms under the Constitution. A rapist ought to be arrested to put it more succinctly. We were not talking about rapists, or anyone else who has attacked other people. Not paying your taxes or buying some marijuana is not an attack on other people. People enforcing those laws are not protecting the rights and freedoms of others at least not directly. The tax collector at least has the argument that without revenue the state can not protect the rights and freedoms of others, so he is contributing to that effort, but he still is initiating force. The cop arresting someone for marijuana possession can't effectively make that argument IMO.

To: Solon who wrote (44966)	1/31/2006 1:42:38 AM
From: Lazarus_Long	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 90947

"What do you think will happen to them if they withhold some portion of taxes the gov't says is due because they judge that amount is spent on the war? They won't be given "deadly force"--I can tell you that. Or the gov't may try to take property. This is easy in the case of bank accounts. If they seize your property for sale, your choices are let the or resist and face the consequences. The consequences can include the use of force. Gov'ts don't take NO for an answer here. That threat of force is behind their actions. Their actions are legal because they say what the law is, not you.