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To: JohnM who wrote (10171)	1/28/2006 1:21:10 PM
From: Lane3	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 541572

The so-called pro life movement won a spin campaign to get itself so labeled. That's not true, or only half true. The so-called pro-choice movement came away from that same battle with its preferred label, too. Fair's fair, seems to me. We are just stating points of view so others can read and understand those points. Anyone who refuses to respect a duly negotiated peace treaty is not interested in clarity of communication but in giving the other side an after-the-bell poke. (I use the other labels occasionally as a courtesy or to emphasize a point or in the spirit of collaboration. When you posted to me about "anti-choice" I used that label in my response to you as a courtesy. I would not use it when posting to Tim because it would be disrespectful.)

To: JohnM who wrote (10171)	1/29/2006 9:43:02 PM
From: TimF	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 541572

"Pro-choice" is spin as much as "pro-life" is. It's just spin that you agree to more. Spin doesn't equal "false". Both of the labels are spun, but both are to an extent true. If you want real accuracy you have to expand the terms to a clumsy length. Something like "pro-having a right to not have abortion outlawed or having the choice to have an abortion face very difficult regulatory barriers" against "anti-recognition of a legal or constitutional right to have an abortion". Well I suppose you don't really have to go that far. You could say "pro abortion choice" against "pro fetal life". But even those labels are short enough to be useable most people prefer even shorter labels if they are available. Tim