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To: Elroy who wrote (270381)1/29/2006 10:19:32 AM
From: RetiredNow  Respond to of 1578819
 
Yes, because even though they all lived side by side a long time ago, they have 50 years of hatred built up. That can't be swept aside with a magic broom. Enmity has to die out over a generation or two.

Let me give you a very good example of what I mean. In the Palestinian schools, kids are taught that Jews are no better than pigs and that suicide bombing is a noble calling. On Palestinian TV's they have soap operas about the Elders of Zion, which is a cabal that pulls all the money and power strings around the world. They have another series about Jews who kidnap Muslims and harvest their body parts. Another about how Jews drink the blood of Muslim children.

NO WONDER THEY HATE JEWS. The way to get rid of this is to create a barrier between the two, where they can both be happy SEPARATELY. Then over time, each side can start doing things to build confidence. For one, the Palestinians can eliminate all the hatred and lies from their textbooks, speeches, TVs, and Mosques. For another, the Israelis good build trade agreements to provide Palestinian jobs. But all of that takes time.

The absolute worst solution is to force all these people together in one big state and think that anything good will come from it. There's just to much hatred.



To: Elroy who wrote (270381)1/29/2006 3:39:09 PM
From: tejek  Respond to of 1578819
 
No, I really believe that one state with both living in it will not work. There is so much hatred that has built up over 50 years, the only thing that will work is a separation, followed by baby steps at reconciliation and confidence building over a very long period of time.

You're using to history as an example? Jews, Muslims, Christians and whoever else lived together reasonably well in that region for thousands of years in a sort of one-state situation. Over the past 50 years they have lost the peace due to the current ethnicity-based two state solution.


I don't see how you get the Israelis to go backwards. They have their own state so why dilute it with more Palestinians to the point where the Palestinians are the majority. Its one of the reasons why they gave up Gaza. Unfortunately, they are only putting off the inevitable if current birth rates continue.