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Politics : WAR on Terror. Will it engulf the Entire Middle East? -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: Elmer Flugum who wrote (12068)	2/1/2006 5:11:50 PM
From: Hawkmoon	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 32591

No, not the Isra'Elis, the Zionists from the West and later the Arab Jews who quit the countries of their birth to go to the "Jewish" state. You mean the over 1 million Oriental Jews who were forced to leave various Arab ruled countries after 1948? There's not much hue and cry about preserving THEIR "right of return". hsje.org "Egypt, for example. Why the name Egypt?" America, why the name America? Egypt, historically speaking, was neither an Arab, nor Muslim, nation. As for America, Ask Americus Vespucci. Surely, America is not the same country it was 200 years ago. America is a multi-ethnic nation built on shared values and ideals embodied in our constitution, not upon religious or ethnic lines. Let me make something clear here. I don't defend Israel as a "Jewish State". I defend it because it is a democracy under political and physical attack by nations that have vowed to destroy it. Thus, when it comes to being required to "choose" between countries that hold dear democractic values and legitimate political opposition, versus authoritarian regimes, I will side with the Democracy everytime. Were Hamas truly a democratic political group, I would support defending their right to rule as well as to live in peace. But it's clear, IMO, that they only utilized the democratic process as a means to destroy that form of governmental system. That, as well as their vow to destroy another democratic country, removes them from my list of democracies. If anything, the election of Hamas is no different that the election of the Nazis to power in Weimar Germany. Personally speaking, I do not support the creation of nation/states based upon ethnic or religious lines. It's anti-thetical to the very ideals of democratic government. Palestine did not evolve into a "Jewish" state it was manufactured. As were, as I previously stated, was Egypt, Iraq, Syria, Lebanon, Jordan, Kuwait, Bahrain, UAE.. All of them were artificially created either by "fiat", or because they possessed the ability to declare independence. That was my point about Egypt. In declaring it to be an independent state and assigning its borders arbtrarily, how many people were forced to become Egyptians? And why were the Copts, the oldest cultural entity residing within the country inherently part of the government? en.wikipedia.org Thus, the point is that everyone, anywhere in the world, probably migrated (forcibly, or because no one claimed the area) at one point in history or another. I'm just saying that the Zionists had the same right to carve out a state for themselves as any of the Arab rulers who were being patronized by the British and French. Hawk