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To: JohnM who wrote (10577)2/1/2006 8:07:27 PM
From: Lane3  Respond to of 541915
 
I don't recall the "caste system" argument appearing.

TP seems so concerned with creating not just an aristocracy but a permanent one. I think that's overwrought. A caste system is the polar opposite of a meritocracy. I was laying out the full range.

We are definitely not a meritocracy. And, I agree with you, we are not a caste system.

We are somewhere in between. A meritocracy in spirit, but an imperfect one.



To: JohnM who wrote (10577)2/1/2006 8:47:34 PM
From: TimF  Respond to of 541915
 
I thought Tim and TP were arguing about class systems and I read Tim to say we don't have class in the US because that's inherited and we are a meritocracy. No doubt Tim will correct me in a subsequent post.

That sort of resembles what I said, but you would have to weaken the claim a lot to make it more accurate and more like what I actually said.

We don't have a rigid class system, because we have a fairly large amount of opportunity, and because we are to an extent (a large extent than most other societies in history) a meritocracy. That doesn't mean the idea of class plays no role in the US or that we are a total meritocracy.

Tim