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To: Saturn V who wrote (183448)	2/8/2006 3:57:42 AM
From: DavesM	Respond to of 186894

re: "Interesting observations, but are these observations anecdotal or do you have any links which have data." Not anecdotal...here are the number that gets the greatest publicity: Life expectancy at birth of All Americans: female: 79.8 male: 74.4 (2001) female: 80.1 male: 74.8 (2003 est) ~15% uninsured at some point during a year. here's a sharper breakdown... Asians Japan Life expectancy at birth: total: 81.15 years (2005 est.) female: 84.61 years Male: 77.86 education.yahoo.com Asian American life expectancy at birth: total: 81.5 (2001 numbers) female: 84.22 years Male: 78.03 (1990 numbers) est. 18.4% Asians and Pacific Islanders were uninsured in 2002. ncapaonline.org ssc.wisc.edu; intelihealth.com Hispanics Estimated life expectancy at birth Cuba (women) 79.2 male: 74.7 Spain (women)82.9 male: 75.6 -page 165; Health, United States, 2005; US Department of Health and Human Services; CDC; National Center for Health Statistics and GAO gao.gov Estimated life expectancy at birth hispanic Americans female 83.0 male: 77 years 33.4% of Hispanics in America were lacking health insurance at some point in the first half of 2004 intelihealth.com Whites Estimated life expectancy at birth non hispanic whites USA female: 80.3 male: 75.1(2002) 10.1 % of non-Hispanic whites were without health insurance coverage between Jan - Jun 2004 (15.9% of non-Hispanic blacks) England and Wales: female: 80.6 male: 76.0 (2001) Germany female: 81.3 male: 75.6 (2001) Ireland female: 79.7 male: 74.7 (2001) Scotland female: 78.8 male: 73.3 (2001) National Center for Health Statistics Health, United States, 2005 with Chartbook on trends in the Health of Americans Hyattsville, Maryland 2005 cdc.gov re: "However even if you are right, Americans pay more for medical care but do not seem to get more for their money." You'll get no argument from me there. But I wonder how much better American life expectancy would be, if our murder rate and other bad habits (diet) were more like, say the Japanese.

To: Saturn V who wrote (183448)	2/10/2006 6:39:27 PM
From: MJ	Respond to of 186894

Puzzled---------how does one classify. Are they referring to European Americans as Americans of European ancestry from the early settling of America. Are they referring to European Americans as being inclusive of anyone who came from Europe regardless of the century and regardless of racial background. Saw this article on Yahoo and found it ambiguous. The writer needs to go back and give the statistical study and facts. By the way, what does this have to do with Intel????? How about the good news on Montecito????? Ah , yes this article preceded the Montecito news today. mj