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To: epicure who wrote (11254)	2/8/2006 2:48:56 PM
From: Lane3	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 541370

I don't think it matters whether or not there really is a prohibition. Probably. Nonetheless, the coverage of the question is interesting.

To: epicure who wrote (11254)	2/8/2006 2:51:17 PM
From: Nadine Carroll	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 541370

It is pretty clear the whole Muslim ME is angry at the West and simply out looking for excuses to show that anger. They have a deep enough, and common enough, well of anger that they reinforce each other when they find something to be angry about. They love us, they hate us, they are angry at us, they want to be like us, they want to move to the West in huge numbers, they want nothing to do with us. All of the above. What you say is accurate enough if you just concentrate on the Radical Islam/Salafist movement, though. The real question in all of this, to my mind, is how do we diffuse Muslim anger against the West (unless we plan to fight the whole ME, which I don't think is reasonable). But what if the Salafists mean what they say? What if we can't diffuse their anger, because it is commanded from Allah? What then?

To: epicure who wrote (11254)	2/8/2006 3:37:00 PM
From: Suma	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 541370

Last night watched a documentary made by a Jew who was reared in Palestine.. His mother was Jewish and his father Palestinian. His mother was a young 17 year old back in 1948 when the State or Israel was formed.. founded..She was very politically active in helping form the new state. Essentially the film was about the drama school that this young man's mother had started in Palestine and where the son started filming the young children who were part of that school back in the eighties. Mother gets cancer... but still works in the school where she is loved as she dispenses love.The son proceeds to make a film. Discussions about how the population distrusted both mother and son until they saw that their motives were pure and their love for the people sincere. So now you have these young students.. children actually acting in dramas and learning how to express anger, hurt and deal with their feelings as the school elicits FEELINGS many of which are directed against the Israeli's for bombing their homes... One little boy is shown sitting on the debris of his home which had indiscriminately been bombed. Later some of these same children.. now grown into men in their twenties become suicide bombers. WE have pictures of them as small children, laughing,jostling crying and now we have them as serious young men who are fighters. Almost every one of the young male students dies in fighting Israeli's The mother is now dead but the son continues the film and it is most moving. What it brought home to me again is that hate no matter how hard one might work to dispel it when initiated, born and nourished by seeing hostility all around you can make the hate so strong as to sacrifice ones life for destructive purposes.. The youngster who laughed the most ran into a home to rescue a young girl who died in his arms. From then on he was bent on the destruction of Israel. Juxtaposition. How can we expect the Muslim world, particularly Iraqi's to ever forgive us, not not forgive, but to hate us less after what we have done to their land and people ?