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To: Hawkmoon who wrote (181435)	2/8/2006 11:35:06 PM
From: steve dietrich	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 281500

Who can trust this Administration, they have lost all credibility, they will spoon feed congress just what they want to let out which supports their program. They won't get the whole story without an investigation. Or another leak.

To: Hawkmoon who wrote (181435)	2/9/2006 8:51:10 AM
From: Sam	Respond to of 281500

Looks like the Senior Democrat on the Intelligence committee is "eating crow". For heavens sake, no one ever suggested that the NSA should be allowed to listen in on calls by Al Qaeda people. The problem is one of process and the relationship of the executive branch to the law and to the other branches of government. This is not just an issue for lawyers, though there are certainly some both in the WH and in the Republican party who portray it that way. The problem is that this admin has a history of declaring that the power of the Presidency is essentially unlimited and unaccountable (though of course they always hasten to add, "of course there are limits to presidential power"; but when asked to define how those limits might be described or enforced, there have been no answers, only vague platitudes). If you doubt that, go read some of the briefs that Cheney wrote for the federal courts in response to the lawsuit that Judicial Watch and the Sierra Club brought against them on the energy meetings. They declared that separation of powers meant that neither the courts nor congress (in the institution of GAO, then conducting their own investigation of the energy meetings) had any right to require them to make public any documents that they, the executive branch, thought were unnecessary to provide. They argued that they didn't even have to make them available to a selected panel of judges who would then judge whether the documents were relevant to the case. That was just one case of executive arrogance. There have been plenty of others. Just to cite one: recall when the Texas democrats in the state senate left to state to prevent a quorum in order to avoid voting on DeLay's redistricting plan? DeLay got the Dept of Homeland Security to send some of their planes in pursuit. As if that was an appropriate use of Homeland Security assets! Why on earth would anyone trust this group in the WH? The fact that one even needs to ask the question is amazing to me. They are not just corrupt, IMO, but incredibly incompetent to boot.