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To: sea_urchin who wrote (10021)	2/9/2006 1:44:11 PM
From: sea_urchin	Respond to of 22250

> There's no doubt that the demonstrations have been orchestrated with an agenda in mind. The opinion of Xymphora (also read Comments) xymphora.blogspot.com >>Nigger thought experiment Both Americans and Europeans seem to be having an difficult time coming to grips with the Danish cartoon controversy. I keep reading that we can't allow the 'Islamofascists' to attack our Western 'enlightenment values' of 'free speech'. The entire issue is regarded as a no-brainer, with the Danes entirely in the right and the violent and irrational Muslims entirely in the wrong. As a conspiracy, it has been a great victory for those promoting a certain view of Muslims and the Middle East. The conceptual problem lies in the underlying view of Muslims and Arabs in the West. These ideas are very old in Europe, going back to fears of invasion hundreds of years ago (which, in turn, was partly based on guilt regarding the Crusades). In the United States, the anti-Muslim view coincided with the desire to exploit Middle Eastern oil resources. It was necessary to develop a negative view of people living over the oil in order to do the things necessary to take it. Since the beginning of Israeli colonialism with the settler movement, there has been an acceleration of the idea that Muslims and Arabs are violent, irrational creatures, not worthy of being considered as human beings. Of course, all these negative ideas went into turbo-drive after September 11, and now form an essential part of the American - and to a somewhat lesser extent, European - Weltgeist. If you want to try to cure yourself of the problem and remove the cultural blinders, you have to do a Nigger Thought Experiment. If you prefer, you can do a Kike Thought Experiment. Instead of the Danish cartoons, image a big-lipped, bug-eyed 'nigger' eating a giant watermelon. Or perhaps you'd prefer a cloaked, hook-nosed 'kike' with a giant bag of gold 'jewing' some gentile out of his money? Would you be defending the right of the papers to publish such cartoons based on the 'enlightenment values' of the West? Would you be so proud of your precious 'free speech'? Needless to say, the argument will be raised that this is 'different'. Well, it's not, and the inability to see that it is not just proves my point. The general unstated (usually) but all-pervasive assumption in the West is that Muslims are sub-human. It's in the air we breathe. It is such an important underlying assumption that people don't even realize that they are making it, leading to the kind of nonsense analysis we are seeing regarding the Danish cartoons. Without this assumption, we would be psychologically unable to treat Muslims the way we do. Here is a small list of some of the things we do to Muslims, without even a hint that there might be some moral issues involved: drop bombs on innocent civilians in a country that posed no harm, and boastfully talk of 'shock and awe'; shoot their children in the face as part of an organized program to steal their lands; imprison their wives and daughters as hostages; chop down the olive trees that have supported their families for hundreds of years; threaten more innocent civilians with death in countries like Iran and Syria, countries which again pose no threat; lock up their young men by the hundreds of even thousands after September 11, unconstitutionally and illegally, and quietly release them months later rather than admit it was all a racist program of profiling; fire a tank shell into a group of their children, and call it a 'mistake'; set up torture centers to brutalize and humiliate mostly innocent civilians, and continue doing it after photographs of some of the least outrageous acts are shown; drop bombs on apartment buildings on the chance that some political enemy you are illegally targeting might possibly be there; set up food distribution for the poor, tauntingly featuring soup made of pork; surround them with walls to formalize the theft of land from them and make it impossible for them to have a state. I could go on and on, but you get the idea. The Danish cartoon controversy is just another part of an organized program to cultivate the idea that Muslims are not worthy of bring treated as human beings. We are therefore morally permitted to do the awful thing we do to them. Compared to all the other things we do, making fun of them and their religion is small potatoes. It seems, as a civilization, that we always need a 'nigger' (or 'sand-nigger', if you prefer the American term, as Americans still need to keep their 'niggers' straight). Muslims are the 'niggers' of our time. Maybe someday we'll pick some other group to be the designated sub-humans. Probably after Greater Israel is created and the oil runs out.<<

To: sea_urchin who wrote (10021)	2/10/2006 5:23:17 AM
From: GUSTAVE JAEGER	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 22250

Re: So, do you think Ahmadinejad is behind the massive outburst of anger throughout the Islamic world directed at the "cartoons" and those responsible for them? Yes, I believe so. But then, what's wrong with it? Ahmadinejad and other Muslim leaders use Islam as a rallying standard against Judeo-Protestant aggression the same way G.W. Bush mobilizes US opinion behind the defense of "our values", "our freedom", "our God",... Again, as Orwell wittily put it, opposite fanaticisms feed upon each another: Under this lies a fact never mentioned aloud, but tacitly understood and acted upon: namely, that the conditions of life in all three blocs are very much the same. In Oceania the prevailing philosophy is called Judeofascism, in Eurasia it is called Laissezfaire, and in Eastasia it is called by a Chinese name usually translated as Death-Worship, but perhaps better rendered as Obliteration of the Self. The citizen of Oceania is not allowed to know anything of the tenets of the other two philosophies, but he is taught to execrate them as barbarous outrages upon morality and common sense. Actually the three philosophies are barely distinguishable, and the social systems which they support are not distinguishable at all. Everywhere there is the same pyramidal structure, the same worship of semi-divine creed, the same economy existing by and for continuous warfare. It follows that the three blocs not only cannot conquer one another, but would gain no advantage by doing so. On the contrary, so long as they remain in conflict they prop one another up, like three sheaves of corn. [...] Message 12958981