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To: GraceZ who wrote (53197)2/9/2006 11:02:48 AM
From: shades  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 110194
 
DJ US Missionaries Leave Venezuela Rain Forest On Pres Order

So much for spreading the word of Jesus - maybe you can become a missionary Grace

CARACAS (AP)--U.S. missionaries accused by Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez of espionage are abandoning their remote outposts among Indian tribes under a government order, some leaving after decades of evangelical work.

The New Tribes Mission, based in Sanford, Fla., was flying its last two missionaries out of the rain forest Thursday to regroup with others in the eastern city of Puerto Ordaz and decide what comes next: to leave the country or continue with a legal battle seeking to overturn the president's order.

Since late January, nearly 40 missionaries have pulled out and headed to the group's base in Puerto Ordaz ahead of a Sunday deadline set by the government for them to leave indigenous areas, said Marco Britto, a spokesman for the missionaries.

"They're all shattered, some of them depressed," Britto said, noting one woman has been working for more than 40 years with the remote Yanomami tribe in the Amazon rain forest.

"But it's not a complete disaster. We'll see what happens. Many are waiting to see what the court decides," he added.

The Supreme Court is set to consider a request by the group to annul the expulsion order, though Britto said that it was unclear when the case could be heard and or how long it could take for a decision.

In November, Chavez announced New Tribes missionaries would be expelled from the country. He accused the group of using its presence in remote, mineral-rich areas to spy for foreign mining and pharmaceutical interests and collect "strategic information" for the CIA.

New Tribes has denied the claims and offered to open up its jungle missions to government inspectors to dispel suspicions. Most of its missionaries are Americans.

New Tribes, a Protestant evangelical organization, specializes in working among 3,000 indigenous groups in the world's most remote areas. The group has been in Venezuela since 1946.


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To: GraceZ who wrote (53197)2/9/2006 12:34:57 PM
From: CalculatedRisk  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 110194
 
When you buy health insurance and don't use it, I assume you want your money back ex post?

I'd consider that the best possible outcome - never getting sick! So I wouldn't expect my money back.

But when you buy retirement insurance, and you do well, you want your money back? ROFLOL. Its called SSI: Social Security Insurance for a reason.



To: GraceZ who wrote (53197)2/9/2006 10:50:21 PM
From: Fiscally Conservative  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 110194
 
All this talk today of Social Security being a problem. It is a joke. It is a matter of taxation.

Social Security and Medicare
tax rates since 1937

Years and Rate

1937-49 1.00%
1950 1.50%
1951-53 1.50%
1954-56 2.00%
1957-58 2.25%
1959 2.50%
1960-61 3.00%
1962 3.13%
1963-65 3.63%
1966 4.20%*
1967 4.40%
1968 4.40%
1969-70 4.80%
1971-72 5.20%
1973 5.85%
1974-77 5.85%
1978 6.05%
1979-80 6.13%
1981 6.65%
1982-83 6.70%
1984 7.00%
1985 7.05%
1986-87 7.15%
1988-89 7.51%
1990 and later 7.65%

*Medicare taxes were first collected in 1966.
Source: Social Security Administration

1950 the tax rate was 1.50%
and
1970 the tax rate was 4.80%

20 years and over a 300% rate differential.

So,raise the rate! And limit payouts to a % of CPI to moderate and offset depletion rate. Everyone should be held accountable. And above all,stop all the complaining. The answers have always been right in front of their faces. They(politicians) just choose to ignore and rather make an issue out it.