To: Edscharp who wrote (10048 ) 2/12/2006 6:10:32 AM From: sea_urchin Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 22250 Ed > It's hard to believe that in this day and age anybody in power could utter this nonsense That's a matter of opinion. As far as I am concerned "sauce for the goose is sauce for the gander" and indeed, if six million Jews died in the Holocaust, as Zionists say they did, it shouldn't be hard to verify that historic fact. Also, as you know, I agree with the Muslims that the "cartoons" fall into the area of hate speech rather than freedom of speech but I do accept that the reaction to them has been exaggerated out of all proportion and for other reasons. Anyway, I'm rather tired of the cartoons now as I'm sure most people are. > Ahmadinejad is a true wackjob. Sure, here's another -- Norman Finkelstein.serendipity.li >>Neither Finkelstein's book nor this website in any way excuses the actions of the Nazis, who (after being handed power by the German corporate capitalists in 1933) were eventually responsible for one of the greatest horrors ever to afflict Europe (the Second World War, as a consequence of which sixty million people died, including twenty million Russians). Awareness of the depravity exhibited by those who ran the Nazi state and the Nazi extermination campaigns should be part of any person's education, and should never be forgotten (although this should not be used as an excuse to ignore other campaigns of genocide against non-Jewish peoples — equally deserving of the term "holocaust"). But Finkelstein makes clear that the Holocaust Industry is not about making sure that Nazi depravity is not forgotten — it is about extorting huge sums of money from Switzerland, Germany and any other country which can be tarred with the Nazi brush.<< >Oh yeah, let's all just sit by and let him get the Bomb. Great idea. And what did "us all" do when USSR and China and India and Pakistan and N. Korea and numerous other countries got the Bomb, including South Africa under the "apartheid" government? > Just what the middle east needs. No-one gave a fart when there was genocide in Rwanda or in Cambodia -- and no-one will give a fart when nukes fall on Iran, so don't worry unduly. The main thing is to see that neither you nor your family are involved in the actual conflict and also to keep far away from the radio-active fallout. truthout.org >>Doctors in Iraq have estimated that birth defects have increased by 2-6 times, and 3-12 times as many children have developed cancer and leukemia since 1991. Moreover, a report published in The Lancet in 1998 said that as many as 500 children a day are dying from these sequels to war and sanctions and that the death rate for Iraqi children under 5 years of age increased from 23 per 1000 in 1989 to 166 per thousand in 1993. Overall, cases of lymphoblastic leukemia more than quadrupled with other cancers also increasing 'at an alarming rate.' In men, lung, bladder, bronchus, skin, and stomach cancers showed the highest increase. In women, the highest increases were in breast and bladder cancer, and non-Hodgkin lymphoma. On hearing that DU had been used in the Gulf in 1991, the UK Atomic Energy Authority sent the Ministry of Defense a special report on the potential damage to health and the environment. It said that it could cause half a million additional cancer deaths in Iraq over 10 years. In that war the authorities only admitted to using 320 tons of DU-although the Dutch charity LAKA estimates the true figure is closer to 800 tons. Many times that may have been spread across Iraq by this year's war. The devastating damage all this DU will do to the health and fertility of the people of Iraq now, and for generations to come, is beyond imagining. The radioactivity persists for over 4,500,000,000 years killing millions of every age for centuries to come. This is a crime against humanity which may rank with the worst atrocities of all time.<<