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To: GraceZ who wrote (53517)2/12/2006 1:10:04 PM
From: Fiscally Conservative  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 110194
 
You wrote;

"You can't be serious that at 12.4% for SS and 2.9% for Medicare we aren't close to the limit of what individuals are willing and able to pay for a pittance in their old age. It is easily already twice what it would cost them to buy the same protection in the private sphere."

Yes I can be serious.

Remember this,where this conversation first started?

Message 22151469

So lets examine the past 25 years. Remember these numbers are only half of what a self employed indivdual would pay.
Using the numbers taken form the above link that I originally posted:

1981: 6.65% (remember,self-employed paid twice this rate)
1982-83: 6.70% (remember,self employed paid twice this rate)
1984: 7.00% (remember,self-employed paid twice this rate)
1985: 7.05% (remember,the above)
1986-87: 7.15% (remember,the above)
1988-89: 7.51% (ect..)
1990 and later: 7.65% (self-employed paid twice this rate)

So,in the past 25 years the Federal government has only managed to raise the rate for the self employed by less than 3 percent of every taxable dollar. Over 25 years and only less than 3%!! Unbelievable.

So in answer to your question; No,I do not believe we are close to the top tier of what indivduals would be willing to pay. They may not like it,but they will pay.

Your views are slanted toward a privatization of the sytem. More money to chase the equity markets (stock market)the real ponzi scheme,imo. Why am I not surprised.