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To: Keith Feral who wrote (181616)	2/12/2006 2:48:06 PM
From: Bilow	Respond to of 281500

Hi Bob Foghorn; Re: "Bush or Bin Laden? In Iraq, it depends who is getting killed. I'll bet the Shiites prefer US assistance to bin Laden insurgents." "... A central feature of Iraqi politics is that since the overthrow of Saddam Hussein the US has become steadily more unpopular in Iraq outside Kurdistan. This is true of the Shiites as well as the Sunni. An opinion poll by Zogby International in the last few days shows that the Sunni Arabs who want the US out now or very soon total 82 per cent. The proportion of Shiites wanting the US to go is less than the Sunni but still overwhelming at 69 per cent. Shiite religious leaders told their followers to vote yesterday as the quickest way to end the occupation. The unpopularity of the US presence in Shiite districts is confirmed in the street. "What did the US ever do for us?" asked labourers, all Shiites, unloading gas cylinders from a truck. "God bless Saddam!" Praise for Saddam Hussein from a Shiite in a public place would have been unheard of 18 months ago. ..." www.zogby.com/search/ReadClips.dbm?ID=10841 Re: "It's pretty obvious that there are two sides to the power struggle in Iraq." There are FAR more than two sides in the power struggle in Iraq. Re: "Why do you spend so much time defending the right of religious psychos?" Uh, I spend no time at all defending the rights of religious psychos. My argument is that Iraq is an unwinnable war that we need to get out of. That's no more a defense of the rights of religious psychos than D-Day was a military adventure in support of the rights of Communism. Re: "The ironic thing about liberalism ..." I'm not a liberal. There are plenty of other conservatives saying the same thing I am. Heck, there were several people in Bush's administration and the US military who lost their jobs for saying what I was saying before the war (that the war was going to be a costly mistake). Re: "Go ahead and root for the terrorists that rape, torture, kill, and intimidate everybody in the ME to aquiesce to their demands. Personally, I think the US should help the Muslims kick their dicks in the sand and make sure they never come up for air." You probably meant to write "terrorists" instead of "Muslims" in the above. -- Carl